Christoph Waltz in Talks to Star in James Cameron's 'Alita: Battle Angel

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Christoph Waltz in Talks to Star in James Cameron's 'Alita: Battle Angel

Post by D3sty » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:28 pm

I read this today on nu.nl (with a link to his article).
I wonder who Desty Nova will play.

August 24, 2016 3:39pm PT by Borys Kit
Christoph Waltz in Talks to Star in James Cameron's 'Alita: Battle Angel' (Exclusive)
Robert Rodriguez is directing the movie that is being produced by Cameron.

Robert Rodriguez is directing the movie that is being produced by Cameron.

Christoph Waltz is in early negotiations to star in Alita: Battle Angel, James Cameron and Robert Rodriguez’s ambitious adaptation of the popular manga graphic novels.

Maze Runner actress Rosa Salazar is on board to play the title character of the potential Fox franchise starter that Rodriguez is directing. Cameron and his Lightstorm Entertainment partner Jon Landau are producing.

Set in the 26th century, Alita tells of a female cyborg (Salazar) that is discovered in a scrapyard by a scientist. With no memory of her previous life except her deadly martial-arts training, the woman becomes a bounty hunter, tracking down criminals. The action-adventure story is meant to serve as a backdrop to themes of self-discovery and the search for love.

If a deal is made, Waltz will play Doctor Dyson Ido, the cybersurgeon who finds the cyborg and becomes her mentor.

Fox is eyeing a fall start for a July 2018 release.

The part will be a change of pace for Waltz, the Oscar-winning actor better known for playing villains. He played the bad guy in this summer’s The Legend of Tarzan and last year's James Bond movie Spectre, but he's been switching directions of late and recently wrapped Alexander Payne's Downsizing and also will appear in the period drama Tulip Fever with Alicia Vikander.

Waltz is repped by ICM Partners.

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Re: Christoph Waltz in Talks to Star in James Cameron's 'Alita: Battle Angel

Post by Pablolein » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:46 am

I think Waltz is such an amazing actor, I would like him as... Dyson Ido??? Well, whatever. Although I've read some people complaining about his age, I don't see it as a problem for the character.
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Post by c o p i n e » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:41 pm

he kinda looks like nova.

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Post by Pablolein » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:43 am

c o p i n e wrote:he kinda looks like nova.
I thought the same thing at first :/
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Post by Martin » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:06 am

I am psyched, but I imagined him as Desty.

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Post by D3sty » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:16 am

I also thought he would be Nova. He looks a bit like him but Walz also the way Walz played bad guys in the past would make him a fitting Nova.

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Post by Sergio Nova » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:19 pm

No problem, but I want the film urgently.

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Post by GrubEater » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:50 pm

Eh. I'm not picturing him, but then I've never seen his acting so... could be good.

In an ideal world, I'd have Ted Danson play Ido and John Malkovich play Nova.

Also interesting to see the name change Daisuke > Dyson (brings back Terminator memories). Wonder what other names will be changed (I'm thinking Panzer Kunst, Gonzu and Jashugan will be at the top of the list).

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Post by Sergio Nova » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:27 pm

GrubEater wrote: Also interesting to see the name change Daisuke > Dyson (brings back Terminator memories). Wonder what other names will be changed (I'm thinking Panzer Kunst, Gonzu and Jashugan will be at the top of the list).
Changing names is not a good idea, I insist. Viz has already made mess enough. There is no reason to increase it.

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Sergio Nova wrote:
GrubEater wrote: Also interesting to see the name change Daisuke > Dyson (brings back Terminator memories). Wonder what other names will be changed (I'm thinking Panzer Kunst, Gonzu and Jashugan will be at the top of the list).
Changing names is not a good idea, I insist. Viz has already made mess enough. There is no reason to increase it.
there is no way the german names are going to stay. kishiro has no idea how fucked up german sounds. can you imagine alita saying "sechs" ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROgwt0vY4-k

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Post by Sergio Nova » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:58 pm

c o p i n e wrote:there is no way the german names are going to stay. kishiro has no idea how fucked up german sounds. can you imagine alita saying "sechs" ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROgwt0vY4-k
I cannot see problems. My native language, Portuguese, is completely different, and even so we pronounce names like Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, Siemens, Basf, Bayer, Bosch; or German persons like Angela Merkel, Klaus Kisnki, Werner Herzorg, Albert Speer, Ludwig van Beethoven, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, just to mention the obvious.
Such names are known all around the world, so I do not believe that German names would be so problematic.

Worse: Japanese names, much more different, are routinely pronounced: Yukito Kishiro, Akira Kurosawa, Honda, Suzuki, Misubishi, Shohei Imamura…

In short, once you have ears and a mouth…

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Post by c o p i n e » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:49 pm

Sergio Nova wrote:
c o p i n e wrote:there is no way the german names are going to stay. kishiro has no idea how fucked up german sounds. can you imagine alita saying "sechs" ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROgwt0vY4-k
I cannot see problems. My native language, Portuguese, is completely different, and even so we pronounce names like Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, Siemens, Basf, Bayer, Bosch; or German persons like Angela Merkel, Klaus Kisnki, Werner Herzorg, Albert Speer, Ludwig van Beethoven, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, just to mention the obvious.
Such names are known all around the world, so I do not believe that German names would be so problematic.

Worse: Japanese names, much more different, are routinely pronounced: Yukito Kishiro, Akira Kurosawa, Honda, Suzuki, Misubishi, Shohei Imamura…

In short, once you have ears and a mouth…
but most of those words are pronounced wrong in english. im pretty sure all of the japanese names are gonna go too, this movie is made for a western audience after all.

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Post by Martin » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:06 am

Panzer Kunst has always been one of the coolest sounding things in all fantasy to me. Panzer has good recognition from WWII history which is pretty huge in the US. Kunst is ok.

I am pretty sure I have always been mispronouncing Daisuke, so whatevs.

I always thought Gally sounded...meh...and even though I hate the title "Battle Angel Alita" I like Alita as a name better than Gally.

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Post by Pablolein » Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:38 am

c o p i n e wrote:there is no way the german names are going to stay. kishiro has no idea how fucked up german sounds. can you imagine alita saying "sechs" ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROgwt0vY4-k
I always assumed YK named Sechs like that on purpouse, you know, after all the sex change thing. I think it's kinda cool...
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Post by c o p i n e » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:12 pm

Pablolein wrote:
c o p i n e wrote:there is no way the german names are going to stay. kishiro has no idea how fucked up german sounds. can you imagine alita saying "sechs" ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROgwt0vY4-k
I always assumed YK named Sechs like that on purpouse, you know, after all the sex change thing. I think it's kinda cool...
damn i never thought about that.
Martin wrote:Panzer Kunst has always been one of the coolest sounding things in all fantasy to me. Panzer has good recognition from WWII history which is pretty huge in the US. Kunst is ok.

I am pretty sure I have always been mispronouncing Daisuke, so whatevs.

I always thought Gally sounded...meh...and even though I hate the title "Battle Angel Alita" I like Alita as a name better than Gally.
i feel you... it always a bit cringey when you tell other people about it. sounds like a cheesy mecha lol. and i still dont know how to pronounce gunnm. there was a thread about it but it didnt confirm anything. its "GU-NAM" right?

obviously panzer kunst isnt going to be changed, that would be completely retarded.

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Post by Martin » Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:02 am

I was going to say that we are light years away from Sechs, but maybe next movie or two?

I imagine BAA1 ends with Motorball.

Then we need to get to den...I guess Zapan + Den and everything before last order takes 2-3 movies.

Maybe Sechs replaces number 2 or something...I don't know.

Lots of things are going to change. I kind of want the movies to just move forward in time because I though that the Zott finale was Amazing. I could see Zott being 2-3 movies. Definitely not more. Funny to think that the 2 books of Vampire stories will be boiled down to 5-10 minutes of flashbacks, IF we are lucky.

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Post by Martin » Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:09 am

I could totally see it open up with the Figure Four story, and have all of the [Zapan/deal with Tiphares/Death of Ido] stuff be flashback. Blocky flashback like Sin City : )

Angel of Death will be insane. Open 2 with that. On the train.

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Post by Martin » Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:14 am

Den on Camera will make me cry.

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Post by c o p i n e » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:21 pm

Martin wrote:I was going to say that we are light years away from Sechs, but maybe next movie or two?

I imagine BAA1 ends with Motorball.

Then we need to get to den...I guess Zapan + Den and everything before last order takes 2-3 movies.

Maybe Sechs replaces number 2 or something...I don't know.

Lots of things are going to change. I kind of want the movies to just move forward in time because I though that the Zott finale was Amazing. I could see Zott being 2-3 movies. Definitely not more. Funny to think that the 2 books of Vampire stories will be boiled down to 5-10 minutes of flashbacks, IF we are lucky.

It is coming : )
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Post by gilsand » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:13 pm

Um, no. Word is that it is going to start from Daisuki Ido, (Dyson I am told was a screwup by the reporter), finding Gally/Alita in the scrap yard as it is one of the most critical parts of the story. From what I have been told, a trilogy is planned and the new 3-D system is simply awesome! The immersive effect is such that some people got dizzy from motion scenes. I am told that some of the Hunter Warrior fights are beyond normal. They fully intended to keep the feel of the Manga intact. Somewhere in the archives of Ripper's, you can find concept art for the movie, hint hint! Quite a lot of theaters in California have already been modified for the new 3-D system, and the sub woofers for the sound system have 1/8 inch thick steel plate cones so they don't warp. I got to sit in on a test and I swear you can feel your hair move from the air pressure.
They did use Apple computers for some editing, but cost of the mainframe computers to render the film was such that accounting was to a tenth of a second. The computer scan lines are so precise that two will easily fit in the width of a human hair. One thing you should keep in mind, in the late 50's and early 60's, you would go to the matinee and see several serial films in a row, such as "the Lone Ranger" and "The Green Hornet", where each film was a continuation of the last. If "Battle Angel", make s a good profit and consider Mr. Cameron has been know to film parts of 3 films simultaneously. Think the "Aliens" movies.
. I still have quite a few friends in the studios, and though there is a lot they cannot say due to nondisclosure agreements, I will share what they do tell.
BTW, if it means anything, I am told the "Motor Ball" race makes the chariot race sceans from Ben Hur look tame.
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gilsand wrote:Um, no. Word is that it is going to start from Daisuki Ido, (Dyson I am told was a screwup by the reporter), finding Gally/Alita in the scrap yard as it is one of the most critical parts of the story. From what I have been told, a trilogy is planned and the new 3-D system is simply awesome! The immersive effect is such that some people got dizzy from motion scenes. I am told that some of the Hunter Warrior fights are beyond normal. They fully intended to keep the feel of the Manga intact. Somewhere in the archives of Ripper's, you can find concept art for the movie, hint hint! Quite a lot of theaters in California have already been modified for the new 3-D system, and the sub woofers for the sound system have 1/8 inch thick steel plate cones so they don't warp. I got to sit in on a test and I swear you can feel your hair move from the air pressure.
They did use Apple computers for some editing, but cost of the mainframe computers to render the film was such that accounting was to a tenth of a second. The computer scan lines are so precise that two will easily fit in the width of a human hair. One thing you should keep in mind, in the late 50's and early 60's, you would go to the matinee and see several serial films in a row, such as "the Lone Ranger" and "The Green Hornet", where each film was a continuation of the last. If "Battle Angel", make s a good profit and consider Mr. Cameron has been know to film parts of 3 films simultaneously. Think the "Aliens" movies.
. I still have quite a few friends in the studios, and though there is a lot they cannot say due to nondisclosure agreements, I will share what they do tell.
BTW, if it means anything, I am told the "Motor Ball" race makes the chariot race sceans from Ben Hur look tame.
seriously curious about how theyre going to handle supersonic speed. slowmotion would be the easiest, im hoping it wont just be normal speed combat. it would look best if they had the the fighting happen super fast in real time.

also where is that concept art dont "hint" me the thirst is real. and where the hell do you guys find all of this information jesus.

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Post by gilsand » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:31 am

As far as the information I get, it is because I worked at one of the prime post production studios in Hollywood for over 10 years and still get to see a lot of old friends. Also there are trade papers and magazines for the "insiders" where you look for work on movies/television, and if you're good at what you do you get offered positions. I myself was a Mechanic, and in Hollywood it means you don't work on cars. For instance I managed access control, a phone bank exchange (PBX), UNIX + Microsoft servers, and Cameras. Though retired I still get to occasionally go to premiers or free tickets.
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Post by Sergio Nova » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:42 pm

gilsand wrote:As far as the information I get, it is because I worked at one of the prime post production studios in Hollywood for over 10 years and still get to see a lot of old friends. Also there are trade papers and magazines for the "insiders" where you look for work on movies/television, and if you're good at what you do you get offered positions. I myself was a Mechanic, and in Hollywood it means you don't work on cars. For instance I managed access control, a phone bank exchange (PBX), UNIX + Microsoft servers, and Cameras. Though retired I still get to occasionally go to premiers or free tickets.
Nonsense! Everyone knows you are the main "capo" in Hollywoodian structure and nothing happens without your approval. :D

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Post by kamugin » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:48 am

"Rosa Salazar" surprisingly her face is somewhat close to Alita's, with proper makeup she may be bearable.
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Post by c o p i n e » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:40 pm

kamugin wrote:"Rosa Salazar" surprisingly her face is somewhat close to Alita's, with proper makeup she may be bearable.
???

i thought alita was going to be 3d? what does it matter if she looks like her if its a 3d model?

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