Gummn - Mars Chronicle 022 (part 1) Is out!

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Gummn - Mars Chronicle 022 (part 1) Is out!

Post by FluffyMcMittens » Thu May 04, 2017 5:49 pm

Here it is finally!
Muster's past gets unraffled a bit more.
A chapter to remember for sure.

We hope you will enjoy it!

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Post by HumanRage » Thu May 04, 2017 9:21 pm

omg this is horrible
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Post by 00_unit » Thu May 04, 2017 10:59 pm

that was an astounding chapter, very dark and also
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the dust from the treasure box was actually true and also it's been a while since we've seen a scientist performing inhumane experiments

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Post by Novel Kars » Thu May 04, 2017 11:17 pm

Just when you think that things can't get any worse for the characters, it gets even worse.

On the side note: I hope the we are nearing the end of this flashback.

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Post by 00_unit » Thu May 04, 2017 11:31 pm

Novel Kars wrote:Just when you think that things can't get any worse for the characters, it gets even worse.

On the side note: I hope the we are nearing the end of this flashback.
Knowing the author with a flashback already this detailed he might make it last quite awhile, which I am a little sad since I want to see what the treasure is already

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Post by D3sty » Fri May 05, 2017 12:49 am

Thanks. Very nice ep.

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Post by Pablolein » Fri May 05, 2017 2:36 am

Wow... thanks for this interesting and terrifying chapter.
What do we desire of life in this world?
What do we desire?
What do we have to show for ourselves?
We accomplish nothing if we fear failure.
If only we could be
stronger...

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Post by Sergio Nova » Fri May 05, 2017 2:06 pm

Wow! Astounding, to say the least.
That gives some explanations, as well as it increases some fears.

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Post by jjaquinta » Sat May 06, 2017 1:57 am

Now we know why he hated Porwitt so much. I had to go back and re-read the scene where he kills her.
That's why I love about this comic. Little hints are dropped that done play out till much later. It means he's really thought through where it is all going.

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Post by kuroro86 » Sun May 07, 2017 3:33 pm

So there is someone out there , A Genius more devilish than Nova. I am impressed . Hope he becames the new villain.

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Post by kamugin » Wed May 10, 2017 5:49 am

Finally some amusement! :mrgreen:

... although another very previsible development. :| Let's see what's cooking up for his little sister that will make Muster finally go nuts.

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Post by jjaquinta » Thu May 11, 2017 1:09 pm

Maybe they are harvesting the sister's organs, blood, etc, to try to keep the princess alive. He's already worked out that they are "experimental subjects", just need to make the jump that they are experimenting on them to try to find a cure for the princess.

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Post by kamugin » Fri May 12, 2017 1:08 am

jjaquinta wrote:Maybe they are harvesting the sister's organs, blood, etc, to try to keep the princess alive. He's already worked out that they are "experimental subjects", just need to make the jump that they are experimenting on them to try to find a cure for the princess.
Yeah, possibly something in that line. It has to be something even worse and more horrible than what happened to his father though, so I am eager to see that. :mrgreen:
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Post by kamugin » Fri May 12, 2017 1:20 am

kuroro86 wrote:So there is someone out there , A Genius more devilish than Nova. I am impressed . Hope he becames the new villain.
Muster is far below Nova regarding intellect, plus he is a psycho and a plain murderer, something Nova never really was. Nova killed as a consequence of his experiments, while heartless he never killed for pleasure. He set loose his "creations" to test his "chaos teory", no to cause mass murder (well, most of the time that was the consequence) and the even takes the risk of being killed by one of his own creations.
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Post by 00_unit » Fri May 12, 2017 9:56 pm

kamugin wrote:
kuroro86 wrote:So there is someone out there , A Genius more devilish than Nova. I am impressed . Hope he becames the new villain.
Muster is far below Nova regarding intellect, plus he is a psycho and a plain murderer, something Nova never really was. Nova killed as a consequence of his experiments, while heartless he never killed for pleasure. He set loose his "creations" to test his "chaos teory", no to cause mass murder (well, most of the time that was the consequence) and the even takes the risk of being killed by one of his own creations.
I think the genius Kuroro86 was refering to wasn't Muster (plus he needed help from at least two professors while Nova doesn't need help from professors at all), but that research laboratory chief named Doctor Ngema Neubauer

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Post by kamugin » Sat May 13, 2017 1:28 am

00_unit wrote: I think the genius Kuroro86 was refering to wasn't Muster (plus he needed help from at least two professors while Nova doesn't need help from professors at all), but that research laboratory chief named Doctor Ngema Neubauer
Oh, you're right, sorry bout that. He shouldn't keep his hopes high, though, I bet Neubauer is a side character, just a random evil scientist.
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Post by 00_unit » Sat May 13, 2017 5:05 am

I feel like this flashback is important not because to develop muster's character but also it feels like we will find out about Yoko's birth and thus revealing Muster's knowledge about Yoko's birth. Also it says this flashback is 13 years ago, but Muster planned his revenge for 10 years so there is a 3 year time gap.
Which makes me wonder how does a guy like Muster who isn't very rich gets all the resources to create a criminal organisation and create a moving castle makes me wonder a little bit

Further thoughts, I feel like the Alita clone back in chapter 10.1 is probably Kagura, since she look similar to Yoko

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Post by Sergio Nova » Sat May 13, 2017 1:44 pm

00_unit wrote: Further thoughts, I feel like the Alita clone back in chapter 10.1 is probably Kagura, since she look similar to Yoko
The idea is interesting, but we have some points to consider if we join the pieces in this gigantic jigsaw:
Kagura is not similar to Yoko, once she is a monster deformed by the maske tumor. Actually, she is Yoko herself - or, better defining, she is Yoko's matrix.
The way the narrative is going, and unless Kishiro is planning an unimaginable turn of events, Yoko was not exactly born, but she is a byproduct of Kagura's maske tumor. That said, it is really possible that the impostor who attacked Queen Limeira is simply another Kagura's fruit.
We should not forget that Yoko has always worn artificial bodies. The question is: has she ever had a real biological body? If I can remember the plot in Memories of Mars, no, never. She is exactly that: a maske.

That said, it does seem to me that the story is evolving in that direction. And one question remains - probably a key information in the plot: how did Yoko end up in the minefield (Last order phase 001)?

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Post by 00_unit » Sat May 13, 2017 10:36 pm

Sergio Nova wrote:
00_unit wrote: Further thoughts, I feel like the Alita clone back in chapter 10.1 is probably Kagura, since she look similar to Yoko
The idea is interesting, but we have some points to consider if we join the pieces in this gigantic jigsaw:
Kagura is not similar to Yoko, once she is a monster deformed by the maske tumor. Actually, she is Yoko herself - or, better defining, she is Yoko's matrix.
The way the narrative is going, and unless Kishiro is planning an unimaginable turn of events, Yoko was not exactly born, but she is a byproduct of Kagura's maske tumor. That said, it is really possible that the impostor who attacked Queen Limeira is simply another Kagura's fruit.
We should not forget that Yoko has always worn artificial bodies. The question is: has she ever had a real biological body? If I can remember the plot in Memories of Mars, no, never. She is exactly that: a maske.

That said, it does seem to me that the story is evolving in that direction. And one question remains - probably a key information in the plot: how did Yoko end up in the minefield (Last order phase 001)?
well that seem to be the case for Yoko since the Duke has express his disgust for Yoko several times already. Also the bigger question is how did Yoko and Erica even enter Grunthal to learn panzer kunst, it feels like they won't even go to the school, though I know I will be proven wrong.

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Post by kamugin » Sat May 13, 2017 10:44 pm

00_unit wrote: Which makes me wonder how does a guy like Muster who isn't very rich gets all the resources to create a criminal organisation and create a moving castle makes me wonder a little bit

Further thoughts, I feel like the Alita clone back in chapter 10.1 is probably Kagura, since she look similar to Yoko
This is almost becoming another Spiderman/Peter Parker clone screw up :mrgreen:

Well, let's see: Alita is in reality a cancer culture, not a clone (my gosh!), however, keeping that in mind, she must have received some sort of DNA "tweaking" otherwise she wouldn't be stable, she should keep growing boundless like any tumor. To Nova's nanotechnology, it would be possible to get rid of the "maske tumor" on a DNA level, making Alita no different than our average clone, however the Martians are two hundred years behind such tech, so I hope Kishiro give us a good explanation about how they managed to stabilise Alita's head, otherwise it will be a big plot flaw.

Regarding Muster's resources, it's quite funny actually. Looking further back, where Nova found his own resources once he fled Tiphares? This is quite common in comics, all evil scientists seems to have generous patronage from unknown sources :mrgreen:
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Post by 00_unit » Sun May 14, 2017 1:26 am

kamugin wrote:
00_unit wrote: Which makes me wonder how does a guy like Muster who isn't very rich gets all the resources to create a criminal organisation and create a moving castle makes me wonder a little bit

Further thoughts, I feel like the Alita clone back in chapter 10.1 is probably Kagura, since she look similar to Yoko
This is almost becoming another Spiderman/Peter Parker clone screw up :mrgreen:

Well, let's see: Alita is in reality a cancer culture, not a clone (my gosh!), however, keeping that in mind, she must have received some sort of DNA "tweaking" otherwise she wouldn't be stable, she should keep growing boundless like any tumor. To Nova's nanotechnology, it would be possible to get rid of the "maske tumor" on a DNA level, making Alita no different than our average clone, however the Martians are two hundred years behind such tech, so I hope Kishiro give us a good explanation about how they managed to stabilise Alita's head, otherwise it will be a big plot flaw.

Regarding Muster's resources, it's quite funny actually. Looking further back, where Nova found his own resources once he fled Tiphares? This is quite common in comics, all evil scientists seems to have generous patronage from unknown sources :mrgreen:
It's frustrating so much question are still unanswered, but that is just me being very impatient, I don't like the slow release dates and Nova might have found an abandoned building and is most likely smart enough to build his own lab using resources from scrapyard, as I would believe that. That is why I speculate sometimes helps me wait for the next chapter

I almost forgot, Muster owns a company called novus ziegel and few other recycling company (according to Muster they are legal), the human bricks corporation as he is the company president I think that is where his income acutally comes from.

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