Gummn - Mars Chronicle 030 (part 2) Is out!

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Gummn - Mars Chronicle 030 (part 2) Is out!

Post by FluffyMcMittens » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:24 pm

Finally the truth is revealed on who Yoko's mother really is.
The dark truth...

Enjoy this latest release.

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Post by D3sty » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:56 pm

Thanks, and who would have thought that
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the good doctor had a cat...

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Post by 00_unit » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:02 am

thank you to Kishiro and the translation team, got to say they translated fast this time. Also Muster's decade plan of revenge is very elaborate, all this is interesting sure, but I really wonder how will this relate with the present timeline story

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Post by Pablolein » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:49 am

Wow... thanks! Interesting developments, expected but interesting.
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Post by Novel Kars » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:49 pm

Thank you for the fast translation, team!
I agree with Pablolein. However,
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this makes me think if it is possible for Muster to be related to Desty Nova, perhaps Nova is a descendant of one of the tumors on Muster?

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Post by kuroro86 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:00 pm

Thanks for the chapter.

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Post by 00_unit » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:52 pm

Novel Kars wrote:Thank you for the fast translation, team!
I agree with Pablolein. However,
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this makes me think if it is possible for Muster to be related to Desty Nova, perhaps Nova is a descendant of one of the tumors on Muster?
not possible as nova is part of the gene project and that was by using dna organ which has nothing to do with maske tumor

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Post by Silvery » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:38 pm

Thank you all for the chapter!

(I should remember to thank for the translations more.)
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The reveal wasn't surprising, and I'm still not a fan of the general idea of Gally being a tumor.

Also, for a bit of trivial nitpicking, I feel like "metus" is more "dread" or, well, "terror" than just "fear", so I'd say that in English it could also be written down as "terror rainbow".
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Post by 00_unit » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:56 pm

also it has been mentioned but they said Muster's final order i wonder what that means given that it is his last

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Post by 00_unit » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:56 pm

also it has been mentioned but they said Muster's final order i wonder what do they mean by that

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Post by moooV » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:56 am

Another crazy idea:
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What if organic Alita left on Earth could become a hideous thing covered in tumors and look similar to Nollin?

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Post by Silvery » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:44 pm

moooV wrote:Another crazy idea:
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What if organic Alita left on Earth could become a hideous thing covered in tumors and look similar to Nollin?
Don't you even dare. D:
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Post by D3sty » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:15 pm

Is it me or does have Nollin got some really nice boobs? :cheesygrin:

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Post by Dream » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:18 am

Just in case.
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Gally has been through a few revivals already so at this point I have no doubt she's "stable". Pretty sure stuff like Venus genetics or Nova's nanotech can already achieve far worse than that.
Not sure what's going to happen next, in the sense it didn't really matter who was her mom in the end, could have been any random slave subject, no? Munster's sister is a non-character there.

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Post by kamugin » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:40 am

Thank you all.
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Anticlimactic is what this chapter is. Here is the plain truth: Alita/Yoko/HK-BR035 is a mask tumor extracted from Nollin. I was hoping for something more sophisticated, like some DNA tweaking. After all, what would stop a mask tumor from developing mask tumors? Herr Ngema is no genius whatsoever, his research didn't go beyond cutting pieces out of his subjects and observing how they developed.

By the way, "HK-BR035" has any hidden meaning or is it just a random designation?
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Post by 00_unit » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:47 pm

kamugin wrote:Thank you all.
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Anticlimactic is what this chapter is. Here is the plain truth: Alita/Yoko/HK-BR035 is a mask tumor extracted from Nollin. I was hoping for something more sophisticated, like some DNA tweaking. After all, what would stop a mask tumor from developing mask tumors? Herr Ngema is no genius whatsoever, his research didn't go beyond cutting pieces out of his subjects and observing how they developed.

By the way, "HK-BR035" has any hidden meaning or is it just a random designation?
They are like a parasite pathogen disease so the host cells are only affected including organs and brain of course, so most likely maske tumor won't grow within themselves, makes me wonder what is in the report as it could explain more detail for this. But I wish Yukito talk about other plot points instead such as the six eyed raven mention that about five times already and the what's in the note. Also he mention he gave the tumors adequate condition to make his experiment work so it isn't just cutting and observing and most likely tried new approaches to make it work.

I hope he talks about this reveal again and catch us off guard in ways we will not expect. Such as the p-box what looked so anticlimatic in the first place turns out to be a pretty cool plot twist in the end.

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Post by MrFaber » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:02 pm

I don't see the logic in this, but Biological Gally won't develope Maske Tumor. Why not? She would have, already. It have been established and repeated that if you extract the brain from a Maske Tumor afflicted individual and you turn him in a full cybor (as tried on Muster's father) the brain itself grow Maske Tumors and die. Gally's brain have been alive for a something like 240 years and it never showed any sign of growing tumors. Even if you don't take into account the 200 years of matusalized hybernation of her brain in the scrapyard, she was already 17 or something like that when she attacked Ieru, and after Ido revived her the whole Gunnm and Gunnm: Last Order, according to chronology lasts about 17 years more. And this, most definately, qualifies the 24 old Figure 4 as the 234 years old Gally's Boy Toy.

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Post by 00_unit » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:10 pm

MrFaber wrote:I don't see the logic in this, but Biological Gally won't develope Maske Tumor. Why not? She would have, already. It have been established and repeated that if you extract the brain from a Maske Tumor afflicted individual and you turn him in a full cybor (as tried on Muster's father) the brain itself grow Maske Tumors and die. Gally's brain have been alive for a something like 240 years and it never showed any sign of growing tumors. Even if you don't take into account the 200 years of matusalized hybernation of her brain in the scrapyard, she was already 17 or something like that when she attacked Ieru, and after Ido revived her the whole Gunnm and Gunnm: Last Order, according to chronology lasts about 17 years more. And this, most definately, qualifies the 24 old Figure 4 as the 234 years old Gally's Boy Toy.
Notice only the host's brain and other parts are affected. we never seen the tumor develop tumor from what we seen and that's likely the case they are like a virus or disease. That they aren't a disease within a disease only host's parts are affected that is my guess anyway

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Post by Novel Kars » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:06 pm

Now I may be remembering this incorrectly, but in part 1 her brain surviving for hundreds of years was considered to be an unexplained surprise. So, could it be possible that the tumor properties of Gally's brain allowed it to survive as long as it did?

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Post by 00_unit » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:36 pm

Novel Kars wrote:Now I may be remembering this incorrectly, but in part 1 her brain surviving for hundreds of years was considered to be an unexplained surprise. So, could it be possible that the tumor properties of Gally's brain allowed it to survive as long as it did?
apparently Nova mention the brain is premated a special polymer resin as a strong defensive mechanism.

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Post by SightlessReality » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:41 am

00_unit wrote:
Novel Kars wrote:Now I may be remembering this incorrectly, but in part 1 her brain surviving for hundreds of years was considered to be an unexplained surprise. So, could it be possible that the tumor properties of Gally's brain allowed it to survive as long as it did?
apparently Nova mention the brain is premated a special polymer resin as a strong defensive mechanism.
Yep yep, he mentions it in the very first chapter of Last Order.

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Post by Caboclo Guerreiro » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:13 pm

To read that "sabulum morten" means "sand of Mars" is an atrocity for someone who studied Latin like me. Why not simply "sand molten"???

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Post by MrFaber » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:15 am

Now I may be remembering this incorrectly, but in part 1 her brain surviving for hundreds of years was considered to be an unexplained surprise. So, could it be possible that the tumor properties of Gally's brain allowed it to survive as long as it did?
Gally is Mathusalized. That's why her brain menaged to survive in the scrapyard for 200 years. I've always assumed this was the case.

Actually i think that Kishiro came out with the mathusalization idea later during his work. Probably in the early stages when Ido said "her brain survived in a sort of hybernation" that was meant to be all the reason why. Then when Nova comments the unusual structure of her brain maybe he was already thinking about mathusalization, or maybe it was meant to be another reason.

All this remains anyway consistent, since on Earth and Salem the procedure was still unknown. So even Nova couldn't have been able to get what the alteration was about at a glance.

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Post by Novel Kars » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:47 am

Well, what if the tumour's brain itself has slightly different properties from normal brains, thus making tumour brain so resilient. Also, could the study of the tumor's brain have in some way contributed to mathusalization?

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Post by MrFaber » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:43 am

I presume that mathusalization is what the "Treasure of Mars" disc is about. It was pointed not to be a cure but a way to avoid death.

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