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Re: GLO 103

Post by Musouka » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:58 pm

AR-99 wrote:I had actually not conceived of the Alita/Hugo relationship getting to that point actually, although it most certainly would have in normal circumstances.
What? The concept alone occurred to me to the depth that I have some rather interesting theories about how the Cyborg bodies are actually made and function (which is NOT canon, as my concepts are much more complex than the stated simple design in the manga) and thus allow proper healthy relationships.

I mean, they eat in the manga, why not live it up?



Also...more on topic with the chapter..this ALMOST makes me feel sorry for Rakan, but at the same time I never did like him... so whatever.
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Re: GLO 103

Post by Eriorguez » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:06 pm

If they can move cyborg bodies, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to have functioning genitals. Their innervation is roughly the same as of a limb, internal organs have more complex innervations. It'd be a matter of conserving the spinal cord, which seems to require to be organic, at least in the scrapyard.

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Musouka » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:38 am

Eriorguez wrote:If they can move cyborg bodies, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to have functioning genitals. Their innervation is roughly the same as of a limb, internal organs have more complex innervations. It'd be a matter of conserving the spinal cord, which seems to require to be organic, at least in the scrapyard.
That has been stated as fact in the series, yes.
My theory is that if they need one organic part, whose to say other parts aren't also organic? Or better yet, a combination of mechanic and organic. With all the things scientists grow in labs in the real world, imagine a world where Cyborgs run around on such a frequent basis.

What we see in 103 here is sort of an example of what I had in mind, one idea, though a lot more crude really.
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When Rakan is shown having skin and a face, the same back with Zappan, I'm convinced it was real skin grafting.
No one ever said that the Cyborgs can't have skin.

My personal favourite though is that a more advanced method of this would be combining flesh sells with more metalic compounds as an outer layer thus making the cybernetic bodies appear and feel more realistic, but still not taking away from the obvious visual facts that it's metal. Though if so many Cyborgs have actual faces with actual skin it does make one wonder why the bodies would have another material and not just skin as well in this case...but it's simple. Any cyborgs who fight would be busting the flesh up so often it would probably turn the Scrapyard or any other location into a biological waste zone. So there would have to be a functioning stronger material that would still serve a purpose. Thus why I said my idea isn't supported by canon: In the manga at some point it's stated that the bodies are made to be as simplistic as possible...my methods would make them MUCH more complex. At least the models with the enhancements.
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Re: GLO 103

Post by othergrunty » Sun May 01, 2011 7:36 am

Doctrine wrote:Well...
I still don't think all the members of the Space Angels are gonna win/survive. It's a 3 vs. 3 combat. It's not possible that only one team stands at the end. Now the question I make to myself is: who's gonna be the first to be killed?
Personaly i would love it if in the end the only two fighters remaining would be Touji and Sechs. Like Gally thinking it would be unfair to further beat down Touji after she "cheated" herself a fresh body again. Zekka being either defeated or giving up for the same reason as Gally and Zazie having won but being completly out of ammo.

So in the end, it's a worn out Sechs against a worn out Toji and they throw potshots at each other until both drop down at exactly the same time leaving the ownership of Earth in both the Space Angels aswell as the Space Karates hand.

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Re: GLO 103

Post by HumanRage » Sun May 01, 2011 11:06 am

i'd be fine with that
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Re: GLO 103

Post by Gatekpr » Sun May 01, 2011 2:05 pm

I wouldn't. It would play out too much like a bad shonen.

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Dream » Wed May 04, 2011 3:12 pm

I find it funny that his penis is censored there, while Anomaly's wasn't.
Maybe Kishiro prefers them big?

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Re: GLO 103

Post by AR-99 » Wed May 04, 2011 7:04 pm

Given the censorship laws in Japan, maybe Anomaly passed on the grounds that the Libido Cannon is a weapon vs. a sex organ in the technical sense. :|

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Sergio Nova » Wed May 04, 2011 7:14 pm

AR-99 wrote:Given the censorship laws in Japan, maybe Anomaly passed on the grounds that the Libido Cannon is a weapon vs. a sex organ in the technical sense. :|
But that libido cannon is a weapon and, simultaneously, is a phallus (and a big one, certainly). The simbology is explicit, and even the movements that Anomaly performs with it are the coital movements, for sure.

Anyway, will the tankobon be uncensored?

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Re: GLO 103

Post by AR-99 » Wed May 04, 2011 9:51 pm

Yes, anyone can see that. What I am saying is that a distinction was drawn between the Libido Cannon and Rakan's organ that allowed the former to be shown no problem, even in the original Japanese version, whereas the latter was censored out. And that distinction may have been that its primary function was that it was a weapon that just happens to be in the shape of a giant penis, even if its attacks all had plain and obvious sexual connotations.

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Sergio Nova » Thu May 05, 2011 12:55 am

AR-99 wrote:And that distinction may have been that its primary function was that it was a weapon that just happens to be in the shape of a giant penis, even if its attacks all had plain and obvious sexual connotations.
I have never understood moral principles. In a society like ours where two men socking each ocher (boxe) is consider sport and a natural instinct (sex) is a taboo, something must be wrong, I dare say.

In India, for example, a couple may not kiss in public, because it is "immoral", but you can slap your wife in the middle of the street, and no one will interfere. :?

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Re: GLO 103

Post by litchi master » Fri May 06, 2011 6:02 pm

Whoopsie I had not put that in the right discussion: I had always thought that cyborgs in the scrapyard didn't have sexual organs (I mean full cyborgs not guys like Gonzu or shumira's husband), which would account for the high levels of violence in kuzutetsu. as all their sexual energy would build up until they finally blew a fuse.
Et le coureur à bout de force ... fut accuelli par une tempête de tollés!!!

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Sergio Nova » Fri May 06, 2011 9:41 pm

litchi master wrote:Whoopsie I had not put that in the right discussion: I had always thought that cyborgs in the scrapyard didn't have sexual organs (I mean full cyborgs not guys like Gonzu or shumira's husband), which would account for the high levels of violence in kuzutetsu. as all their sexual energy would build up until they finally blew a fuse.
But that is the point: Alita is a full cyborg, and we have been discussing exactly that. Ido said she would be able to have an ordinary relationship with Hugo, and somewhere we saw she would even be able to shit as any ordinary person. As a matter of fact, I think that sticking my stick in a metallic body would be anything but a good idea. Nonetheless, even Olympe, a gynoid, was built to be a sextoy, so…

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Re: GLO 103

Post by ^Ripper » Fri May 06, 2011 10:45 pm

Even if she had soft bits...if she clenches during orgasm, what do you think would happen to poor Willy :cry:
Nah, she's build for some hard metal-on-metal action.

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Sergio Nova » Fri May 06, 2011 10:50 pm

^Ripper wrote: Nah, she's build for some hard metal-on-metal action.
Thus, according to you, no chance for poor Hugo?

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Re: GLO 103

Post by ^Ripper » Fri May 06, 2011 10:56 pm

Not unless he's a badass masochist...
And i think HE IS.

Did you see the smile when he got sliced up while humping the suspention tube and fell to his death?!
He's hardcore!

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Re: GLO 103

Post by AR-99 » Fri May 06, 2011 11:16 pm

Well if she fakes it, it wouldn't be a problem for Hugo or Figure now would it? 8)

If anyone has read or watched Ghost in the Shell, cyborg or android love dolls exist in that universe and are owned or used by flesh and blood men.

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Sergio Nova » Fri May 06, 2011 11:54 pm

^Ripper wrote: Did you see the smile when he got sliced up while humping the suspention tube and fell to his death?!
He's hardcore!
Lord! You're right!
AR-99 wrote: If anyone has read or watched Ghost in the Shell, cyborg or android love dolls exist in that universe and are owned or used by flesh and blood men.
Actually, there are lots of reference to GITS in BAA, so you are right, also.

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Re: GLO 103

Post by vacendek » Sat May 07, 2011 3:01 am

:roll: If we were given nerd-stylepoints this discussion would be the winner! :roll:

I can't deny though, that I have been thinking about sex & cyborgs too ;)
Even if she had soft bits ...
My impression was that Alita could form her body anyway she wanted, which of course includes the density. That way she should be able to perform. If she is able to enjoy IT, is another topic. No clue if her body can form nerves too, but I asume it can.

:mrgreen: Isn't Alita great in anything she does? If u like it she can grow a giant tentacle (or was it testicle ,-)

There is no reason that the other cyborgs and androids can't have bio/wet-ware for genitalia, safe for the fact that you might get your stuff crushed in the next fight, or other bio vs metal interaction.
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Visit our Biovouivre customer satisfaction center (BIOVCSC) near you for all your wet love needs and receive a 10% discount!

In Eden (hint!) the female android offers herself, but is rejected under shock. She says something like "... you may use me, but i won't feel anything ...", which in my opinion is quite the turnoff.

:idea: Mr. Nova is the guy to go for that sort of things/talk. The mad genius cloned his own perfect (huge boobies) flesh&blood slave/useless bodyguard!
Did you see the smile when he got sliced up while humping the suspention tube and fell to his death?!
I was very happy too!

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Re: GLO 103

Post by AR-99 » Sat May 07, 2011 4:33 am

Hoo boy, we are definitely very far down the rabbit hole with this thread. :twisted:
:mrgreen: Isn't Alita great in anything she does? If u like it she can grow a giant tentacle (or was it testicle ,-)
>____<

I guess this idea was going to come up eventually. Whatever floats your boat!
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They have Zekka's genes, I'm sure they can come up with Zekka brand "devices" for their female customers. :lol:
The mad genius cloned his own perfect (huge boobies) flesh&blood slave/useless bodyguard!
Isn't this a nerd's dream? :oops: I still don't get the big arrow on the forehead though. Maybe to remind him to actually look at her face when talking to her? Or, this was for what to do if Eelai still had periods 8)

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Re: GLO 103

Post by vacendek » Sat May 07, 2011 5:28 am

AR-99 wrote: Zekka brand "devices" for their female customers.
We are proud on our XL-Zekka™ Deluxe hand operated devices, but would like to use this opportunity to promote our new obedient Olympe™!

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Sergio Nova » Sat May 07, 2011 1:24 pm

vacendek wrote: We are proud on our XL-Zekka™ Deluxe hand operated devices, but would like to use this opportunity to promote our new obedient Olympe™!
All right, you won! I'll reconsider my points and order an Olympe model. :oops:

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Rindain » Mon May 09, 2011 11:29 am

Speaking of sex and fanservice, why haven't we gotten a single naked boob in Last Order?

The original had a bunch of 'em!

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Re: GLO 103

Post by Sergio Nova » Mon May 09, 2011 11:45 am

Rindain wrote:Speaking of sex and fanservice, why haven't we gotten a single naked boob in Last Order?

The original had a bunch of 'em!
A "bunch"? Aren't you exaggerating?
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Re: GLO 103

Post by TargaryenX » Mon May 09, 2011 5:00 pm

Well Alita is technically naked in all of her imaginos bodies, because her clothes are part of the body.

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