Series nitpicks and inconsistencies

[Sergio Nova]

GLO v7, page 89 - Elf shoots herself, and we see a blood fountain from her head. Also, there is a blood on the ground.

SHE'S AN ANDROID. She doesn't have blood at all. Also, she should have a hollow head since her brain chip is in the toy.

Also. How can starship cult hypnotize androids (including Sechs)? This is quite strange.

1. Elf is not an android, but a thund. That is, she is a replicant of Alita, although her brain is a chip.
2. It is not exactly blood. It is the same fluid that all cyborgs, Alita included, have along the series. The fact that Elf is a thund does not change the fact that her body is a machine.
3. She has a human-like brain. There is nothing strange when a human brain suffers hypnosis.

[moooV]

I don't know if you have noticed it or not. I have always wondered it, but I've cut the map out only today, since I've reading GLO 9 today.

It's quite a mistery. Take a look.

Here's the map of the future Earth:


The Scrapyard/Star City is near the St. Louis, and it's located on a sea shore, according to Arthur's plan. Yes, there is no sea at St. Louis in reality, but Rada said that the water has risen, all the places where Vilma fought are underwater, and it's still rising.

So, here's the question: Why is scrapyard surrounded by desert? You can clearly see that on the map in HFV vol 8 (the one with the farms taken by the Barjack) and also Alita has said that she has never been to the sea in HFV 6?

[Sergio Nova]

The sea had risen and the sun was hidden. In the end of GLO09 the sun is back. In short, the planet was starting to recover itself.

[AR-99]

2 words: Global warming. It is also mentioned that Space City Binhar exports seawater to the colonies, maybe this helped drop the sea levels?

We have to keep in mind too that Kishiro's plan of the world has evolved. In the the original having a desert wasteland was fine, but in LO the universe expanded and he threw in the Geo Catastrophe and impact winter. So this may create some inconsistencies, such as is it really possible for the sea levels to recede that much in 400 years? Maybe it is in this universe and we have to roll with it.

[Sergio Nova]

So this may create some inconsistencies, such as is it really possible for the sea levels to recede that much in 400 years? Maybe it is in this universe and we have to roll with it.

I cannot see the inconsistencies here. The sea level is NOT a result of global warming, but a consequence of the crash the planet suffered from Ixchel. As to the time necessary to the planet recover, even the great scientists are unable to affirm.

[AR-99]

I never said global warming caused the sea levels to rise. I was suggesting that global warming and Binhar's export of seawater may be reasons why the sea levels have RECEDED.

[Sergio Nova]

I never said global warming caused the sea levels to rise. I was suggesting that global warming and Binhar's export of seawater may be reasons why the sea levels have RECEDED.

In short, you don't make sense, as right now the polar icecaps are melting exactly because of the global warming. Thus, the sea level is continually increasing. How do you want global warming itself to make it recede?

[AR-99]

I agree, I am not making sense. I was thinking that the continued rise in temperatures would also evaporate the sea water at a faster rate.

It is shown that 200 years later when Gally crashed near Star City that the surrounding area had already dried up.

[HumanRage]

you would have to consider the part of atmosphere and sea that got ejected from the planet (you don't think a smoke plume of that magnitude to fall back, are you ?)

also, impact on ocean floor or landmass would have surely created a deeper/new sea, thus when then the climate stabilizes again, landscapes and seashores are nothing alike, some may have sunk, others may have rised, because of the planet's crust moves.

[Sergio Nova]

Now it is my turn to point something.

In HFV08, Daisuke Ido erases his memory. Because of that, he is unable to recognize Alita.
Question: how can he be a doctor?

If a thirty-five-year-old man (I am speculating Ido's age) erases his memory, he will become a vegetable. One is a product of the environment, and after erasing his memory he would have to learn how to speak, for example.

And do not tell me he erased just a short period of his memory. Alita has been a tuned agent for twelve years. In short, he destroyed his memory exaggeratedly.

[HumanRage]

amnesia people remembers how to talk, recognize objects, walk, scratch their belly and stuff...
they just lost their identity, which as the ego, is stored in a specific way by the brain, and if that storage is lost (accident, trauma, <technological device>) you get a blank person with no identity, but still knowing his math, history and whatever job he was doing before.

they still remember how to do their job, but they don't have any memory of doing so by the past.

amnesia.

[Sergio Nova]

Interesting, I should say.

[moooV]

Now it is my turn to point something.

In HFV08, Daisuke Ido erases his memory. Because of that, he is unable to recognize Alita.
Question: how can he be a doctor?

If a thirty-five-year-old man (I am speculating Ido's age) erases his memory, he will become a vegetable. One is a product of the environment, and after erasing his memory he would have to learn how to speak, for example.

And do not tell me he erased just a short period of his memory. Alita has been a tuned agent for twelve years. In short, he destroyed his memory exaggeratedly.

amnesia people remembers how to talk, recognize objects, walk, scratch their belly and stuff...
they just lost their identity, which as the ego, is stored in a specific way by the brain, and if that storage is lost (accident, trauma, <technological device>) you get a blank person with no identity, but still knowing his math, history and whatever job he was doing before.

they still remember how to do their job, but they don't have any memory of doing so by the past.

amnesia.

Sergio, you've missed something. There's an example of the same thing as HumanRage tells us about.
And that's... Alita, which has been found with absolutely no memory of her identity, but knowing panzer kunst.

[AR-99]

My theory is that Nova helped Ido out - after all he considers Ido his "patient", so he is not going to screw him over. How he did so is unknown.

Based on what we see in LO with Mbadi speaking to Nova's brain chip, I had the thought of Nova taking Ido's brain chip out, putting it into a reader, and erasing everything up to a certain point. Just an idea.

[Sergio Nova]

Sergio, you've missed something. There's an example of the same thing as HumanRage tells us about.
And that's... Alita, which has been found with absolutely no memory of her identity, but knowing panzer kunst.

But there is a great difference. Medicine is a science, that is, you have to think every step when working. Fighting techniques are instinctive, so it is a completely different situation.

A martial artist, as well as a soccer player, most of the time reacts according to the programming he has injected. If a martial artist has to think before acting, he is dead; as to a goalkeeper, for example, he would be defeated. It is that simple.

[HumanRage]

martial arts are so instinctive that even after a life of practice, some are still not masters of their techniques...

but yes, believe that it is simpler than science, yeah sure

[Alfok]

Im surprised none has noticed the mistake in the weight of the weapons that Zazie is carrying into the battleground (GLO 104 - 1st page), just a few weapons and is weight limit excedeed? please!
Remember Guetto's sword, from Guntroll team? .. ehmm Disaster? it by far so much heavy than all the weapons and ammo that is showed in the first page of GLO 104!!!!
discuss

[Sergio Nova]

martial arts are so instinctive that even after a life of practice, some are still not masters of their techniques...

but yes, believe that it is simpler than science, yeah sure

Know what? I like that avatar of yours. Which character is that?

[^Ripper]

Sergio doesn't know 'bout http://www.leasticoulddo.com/ ???

That's Rayne in his junior years.
Stories are posted every sunday.
"Normal" stories every other day.

Its one of my favorite webcomics to read.

From the same author and also favorite.
http://lfgcomic.com/

Both are MUST READS!
Start both from the beginning

Both are in my Top 5

A visual aid for the LFG comic:

[HumanRage]

Ripper, you are a real connoisseur

[Sergio Nova]

Well, as a matter of fact, I am simpler that you all think.
I will check the pages you gave. I am always interested in learning.

[MrFaber]

About Ido's memory. We ca assume that a technology so advanced to build biologically integrated machine body parts which can be neurally controlled a send neual feedbacks, can also selectively erase memories from a brain. They can harmlessly "tattoo" a brain already... This is not Ido's case, tho. His case, as a computer scientist myself, should be more like "Connect Ido's brainchip to a consolle. Access b.c.'s firmware. Go to memory's management. Erase memory location from "hexodecimal number" to "hexodecimal number". Logoff. Reinitializate Ido's brain functions.

[Sergio Nova]

About Ido's memory. We ca assume that a technology so advanced to build biologically integrated machine body parts which can be neurally controlled a send neual feedbacks, can also selectively erase memories from a brain. They can harmlessly "tattoo" a brain already... This is not Ido's case, tho. His case, as a computer scientist myself, should be more like "Connect Ido's brainchip to a consolle. Access b.c.'s firmware. Go to memory's management. Erase memory location from "hexodecimal number" to "hexodecimal number". Logoff. Reinitializate Ido's brain functions.

In short, you believe a human brain is as simple as any machine.

[Cailon]

In short, you believe a human brain is as simple as any machine.

To be fair, yes, Ido's brain is a machine. Restore c:\ , format d:\ , restore d:\ to g:\, restore, overwrite and alter section h:\, insert section i:\ from extern drive a:\.
Just like that, Ido 2.0 is ready. Ketheres used the same old trick as I doubt that any Ketherian can remember the details of the "adolescence-test" (a.k.a. brain removal).

[Sergio Nova]

To be fair, yes, Ido's brain is a machine. Restore c:\ , format d:\ , restore d:\ to g:\, restore, overwrite and alter section h:\, insert section i:\ from extern drive a:\.
Just like that, Ido 2.0 is ready. Ketheres used the same old trick as I doubt that any Ketherian can remember the details of the "adolescence-test" (a.k.a. brain removal).

1. All right, Ido's brain is a machine, but I believe you did understand what I meant: a human mind cannot be formatted so simply (and despite being incubated in a chip, it is still a thinking mind).
2. No one is able to remember the brain removal simply because, as far as I can understand, the brain was necessarily removed after having being copied. Thus, the original brain, that one in the incubator block, would be able to remember the removal (or not, once it was sleeping or something like that), but the data in the chip has nothing to remember, simply.