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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:53 pm
by Blaine
Ok

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:49 pm
by Dream
HumanRage wrote:
Cailon wrote:
CharyOdd wrote: "Octopus-decoy" implanted :D
Just had to think about Decoy Octopus from Metal Gear Solid :D

HumanRage, that rules!

Whats with the new guy, is he stronger than Toji?? He seems to have a pigtail like a samurai, but its a crayfish instead of hair hehe.
Finally the story goes on, next chapters the ZOTT could reopen.
the new guy seems to be don fua, not more not less.
Wouldn't make sense, whith all that "Don fua spirit lives in Toji" recent stuff. Maybe a disciple? Or another karateka touched by his spirit?

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:27 pm
by ulithemuli
boy i wish i could read japanese when i just look at the pictures :D ... epic chapter id say... id love any translation, be it bad or worse

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:35 am
by Kamui04
Well, I've started transcribing the Japanese text. I'll start translating soon to be able to understand a lot of the stuff happening in this chapter. But for starters the tiger in Gally & Toji's convo is Jashugan. The new guy doesn't seem to be Don Fua. From what Zekka said, he killed Don Fua in Titan and made all this fuzz in the ZOTT to draw out this guy which seems to have been hiding/living in seclusion. His school seems to be Shurite, one of the original Okinawan styles from the 18th century. Take this with a grain of salt since I still need to fully translate, this stuff is what I picked up from what I'd understand without picking a dictionary.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:27 pm
by wowylied
I had 10 minutes of free and I have make a fast colo !
http://dragonmares.deviantart.com/art/c ... i-87583633

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:56 pm
by crazyankan
wowylied wrote:I had 10 minutes of free and I have make a fast colo !
http://dragonmares.deviantart.com/art/c ... i-87583633
Toji looks like the incredible hulk =)

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:58 pm
by D-Scape
wowylied wrote:I had 10 minutes of free and I have make a fast colo !
http://dragonmares.deviantart.com/art/c ... i-87583633
Good, although Toji's a bit greener than I thought he would be! (I always imagined him as light-grey/white.) Perhaps he's just suffering from seasickness? 8)

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:27 am
by muhar
what about the old master dude from don fua and zekka? could it be him?

we only know that he jumped somewhere down, but zekka nor don fua ever checked the body, or did they?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:38 pm
by spacey
Ah, we seem to get story and explanations :).
Waited very long for it. And Koshiro plays with his characters - fine. In one picture Alita is like a kid and only a few later she is very strong. And all this with total different styles of sketches. I think he gets more confident with the characters. I hope so, and he don't just get more 'cute Alita' for better sells. :?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:10 pm
by hepar
wowylied wrote:I had 10 minutes of free and I have make a fast colo !
http://dragonmares.deviantart.com/art/c ... i-87583633
How to change CYMK into RGB? :?:

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:16 am
by Akumeno
with lots of caution and using the settings of your fav image editor

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:03 pm
by Blaine
Hows the scanlation of this phase coming along?

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:30 am
by hyatt
Blaine wrote:Hows the scanlation of this phase coming along?
Still no sign of a script -_-;

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:43 pm
by Akumeno
yup we miss kamui

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:17 am
by HumanRage
let him live !

you newcomers, don't know that it's first time in GLO's scanlation history (rippersanime's too actually) that the scans are up to date with the japanese monthly publication.

i'm crying at every release because 2 years ago this project was nearly stalled, and now not only HQ releases are out but scans are up to date !

so please, don't complain or put pressure on the team :wink:

you don't know (or if you do, it's more important to bless this days) of the wait during all these years, only having RAW phases or even chinese's scanlations to figure out what's happening... the vampire flashback, the melchizedek matrix, being unable to understand a thing of this was a terrible pain.
now this will hopefully never happen again, Hallowed Are R.ipper, C.razy and K.amui
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:08 pm
by Kamui04
Don't worry, it's not like I've abandoned translating GLO. Everyone has a real life and I was busy with work this week.

I've transcribed the japanese text and started translating, I got stuck with the story that Toji tells Alita. I had to find and read the original story and compare it to find if there is any other meaning besides Alita visualizing the cats as people she knows.
It's a Zen story written in 1727 named "Neko no Myojutsu" or "The Marvelous Technique of the Old Cat". It starts fine but Toji gets the ending wrong and mixes the Cheshire Cat/Shrödinger Cat in the story.

You can read story here. It's pretty lengthy, so be prepared
http://www.auburn.edu/~wilsoug/Neko_no_Myojutsu.html

I have free time this weekend and I might have the finished script on monday or tuesday.

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:28 pm
by HumanRage
Gods Bless you.

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:30 pm
by Akumeno
hey I Only poke Crazyankan with a stick sometimesI do not complain I only salute this great team Hail to the kings!

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:07 am
by crazyankan
Akumeno: Can't you start poking Kamui now instead? I got bruises all over my body ;)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:50 am
by Akumeno
thou wishes are my comands!! *pokes kamui*

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:41 pm
by Kamui04
I'll post a part of the script meanwhile, I'll finish posting the rest later today.


Phase;78 Marvelous Technique of the Old Cat.
Text: Despair... and then a resurrected Gally, what is she thinking?

page 2
panel1
J. Gerambo: Uwah!
panel2
Text: Who is getting into the reserves...!?
J. Gerambo: Only 5 minutes have passed since the Great Karate War started! It's been so fast I can't say only half of the Karatekas remain, more like they're in a videogame losing lives!!


page 3
panel1
Rakan: Ahhh
Rakan: Boring boooring!!
panel2
Rakan: All these men are so untalented it's paaainful to watch.
Rakan: Where are the girls, any girls!?
Textbox: Armor-piercing Karate -Rakan
panel3
Mercury: You
Mercury: Are you mocking the sacred man vs man fight!?
Textbox: Centered Karate -Mercury


page 4
panel1
Mercury: This bastard is being persecuted for serial murder and raping...
Mercury: For the honor of the karate world we'll execute this criminal here!!
Right Textbox: Black God Karate -Amin
Center Textbox: Astro Karate - Ganger
Left Textbox: Omega Association -Zakuro
panel2
Rakan: All of you so pitifuuul, you not gonna kill me, nevar!!
Rakan: Hihihi


page 5
panel6
sfx: Perfect

page 6
panel1
Rakan: Ohh, so, you avoided instant death by stepping away from the center of my strike...
Rakan: Way to go, I got a better opinion of you!
panel2
Rakan: But in the end, Karate is just a sport for you...
Mercury: Huh!? Ugh...
panel3
Mercury: Yo... you... What did you do...!?
panel4
Rakan: For Armor-piercing Karate to increase the penetration of the strike we make use of depleted uranium cores.
Rakan: Furthermore, I added a device that injects Polonium to poison.
Rakan: Even for a cyborg, once it gets into the circulatory system and reaches the brain cells, death will surely come... hihihi!!


page 7
panel1
Rakan: It's too late, you're already dead, enjoy your painfuuul death hihihi!!
Mercury: Guhhh
panel2
Mercury: You bastard!!
panel3
Mercury: Argh
Rakan: You're dead.
panel4
Rakan: Should I feel simpathy for this warrior?
Rakan: Not likely since I'm not a warrior!! hihihi
Footnote:
Depleted Uranium: It is a heavy metal with a density of 19 g/cm^3 (1.7 times that of lead) used to produce anti-tank munitions.
Polonium: A chemical element that has the symbol Po and atomic number 84. It's a highly radioactive, silvery-white metalloid. It was discovered by the Curie couple in 1898.

page 8
panel1
sfx: Gahhh
sfx: Uwohhh
panel2
Toji: The way of the Bushido has no limits.
Toji: Once I read this story.
panel4
<Toji: Once upon a time... There was a Samurai named Katsuken who had a furious rat living in the ancestor's altar in his house. It did all kind of mischiefs.>
Rat sfx: GAhhh
<Toji: Katsuken had a pet cat in his house, but got wounded trying to get rid of it.>
<Toji: Then he hired some of the neighboring cats which were experts at catching rats.>


page 9
panel1
<Toji: The first challenger was a very keen black cat.>
Alita Cat: I was born in a family reputed for catching rats. >
Alita Cat: Since I was a kitten I've been skillful at acrobatics and quick feats!
<Toji: And so there was this master of speed.>
Alita: She looks like me.
panel2
<Toji: But sadly, she was quickly defeated.>
Gally Cat: Fukyaahhh
panel3
<Toji: The next challenger was a tiger-like big cat.>
Jashugan: I have polished my fighting spirit for so long, it can fill the Heaven and Earth!!
Jashugan upper sfx: GRRR
Jashugan eyes sfx: Gaze
Jashugan: If the rat ran over a beam, I'd gaze at it with my spiritual strength and it'd fall to be my prisoner.
<Toji: So said the brave warrior. >
Alita: Jashugan maybe?
panel4
<Toji: Sadly, he was defeated by the Furious Rat too.>
Jashugan: Gyahh
Alita: The rat is strong...


page 10
panel1
<Toji: The next challenger was a gray-haired Nekomata.>
Caerula: I trained my spirit for a long time so my opponents will turn back without a fight.
Caerula: With my spirit, I bind and surround my opponent's spirit and coerce them to their dying place.
Right tail text: Earthlight
Left tail text: Moonlight
Caerula sfx: Humm
small text: Too bad.
Big kanji: DIE
<Toji: So said the monster that mastered the spirit techniques.>>
Alita sfx: Ahh!
Alita: It's her.
panel2
<Toji: But even for this Nekomata, the Furious Rat was too much.>
Alita: Take that!
panel3
<Toji: And the greatly perplexed Samurai, Katsuken...>
<Toji: Requested for a cat from the neighboring town to come, a cat widely known to be without equal.>
panel4
<Toji: It was a stupid looking Maneki Neko.>
Cat sfx: Drool
Alita: Ehh?

TL Note: Here is where Toji's start diverging the most from the original story in their appearance and skills. A Nekomata is a mythical monster cat with two tails. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nekomata. A Maneki Neko or Beckoning/Welcoming/Fortune Cat in Japan is a very common sculpture usually put in entrances to bring good luck or fortune. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneki_neko


page 11
panel1
<Toji: At the location, the Furious Rat easily saw the Maneki Neko.
Maneki Neko sfx: Wave Wave
panel2
<Toji: It was attracted to come out without resisting and thus it fell prey.
Panel3
<Toji: That same night the participating cats asked the Maneki Neko to teach them.
<Toji: Then the Maneki Neko pointed out each and every weakness they had...
panel4
Maneki Neko: There's no need to use any kind of technique.
Maneki Neko: Simply, when you've put yourself into a state of mindlessness, you won't have any enemies in the whole world.
<Toji: And that was his state, he said.
panel5
Maneki Neko: But, don't have too high expectations of me.
Maneki Neko: Long time ago, in my hometown neighborhood there was a cat... Compared to him, I'm not match.
panel6
Alita: So... someone higher...!?

TL Note: Kinda hard to put a whole paragraph of the original story into one sentence and still carry the same meaning. Here's the paragraph: Ki power makes the body function and vivifies the cosmos. Harmonizing power enables one to blend naturally with any attacking force, even rocks, without being broken. As soon as there is the slightest conscious thought, however, contrivance and willfulness appear, and that separates you from the natural Way. You see yourself and others as separate entities, as opponents. If you asked me what technique I employ, the answer is mushin (mindlessness). Mushin is to act in accordance with nature, nothing else. The Way has no limits, so do not think of this talk of mine as the ultimate secret.



page 12
panel1
<Toji: And the greatest, strongest, unrivaled and undefeated cat was...
Toji: The Cheshire Cat!!
<Toji: It is already very hard to define if he exist or not. The divine martial virtue of non-killing.
Alita: Eh?
Alita: Why Alice all of a sudden?
panel2
Toji: Ehhh...?
Toji: Or was it the Schrödinger's cat?
Alita text: Some rotten memory you got!!
panel3
Alita: That... actually...
Alita sfx: Huh
Alita: It's Zen!!
panel4
Toji: Oh...
Footnote:
Cheshire Cat: A grinning cat that appeared in the book "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" by Lewis Carroll (1832-1898). It had the ability to vanish at will and appearing in unexpected places or moments.
Schrödinger's cat: A thought experiment to discuss the general nature of quantum superpositions in quantum mechanics. This quantum mechanics experiment involves a cat penned in a box with equipment to poison it with a 50% probability, to observe and consider if its present state is living or dead.


page 13
panel1
Toji: Uwohhh, I'm deeply moved!!
Toji: It's the first time someone gave me the right impressions after hearing the story!!
Alita: I only said the appropiate thing.
panel2
Toji: This "Marvelous Technique of the Old Cat" is a fable told in the learning stages and show the ideology of oriental martial arts.
Toji: It's just an story from ancient times when there wasn't electricity... But now it's questionable if we can apply it as is/(literally / without changes).
panel3
Toji: Alita, your current state...
Toji: if it's ok, I want to hear it from you.
panel5
<Alita: Right now my state...
Footnote: "Neko no Myojutsu" was first published in 1727
TL Note: Niwa Jurozaemon (Issai Chozanshi)

I'll add the Footnote and TL Note later when I've made a bit more research and written something more comprehensive


page 14
panel1
J. Gerambo: It's only been 10 minutes since the start!! And we can see heaps of corpses all around!!
J. Gerambo: The survivors are only a handful of brave warriors!!
sfx: Uryahh
sfx: Zehhh
panel2
Mysterious Character: Hahaha


page 16
Mysterious Character: I got no business with weaklings.
Mysterious Character: Go home!!


page 18
panel2
Plut: My leg.
panel3
Daikoku: Those that attacked got their arms and legs unilaterally destroyed...!?
Daikoku: What is this...!?


page 19
panel1
Someone: Who is that guy!?
panel2
J. Gerambo: Suddenly a mysterious shrimp-like warrior priest has appeared!!
H. Hopper: He... He can't be!?
panel3
Zekka: I've heard the rumors.


page 20
panel1
Zekka: You're Taraba from the Super Shell (Super Crustaceous) Karate that evolved from the noble Uechi-ryu.
Zekka: For you to raise up and come from the far reaches of Titan to meet me.
Patta: Zekka himself...!!
panel2
Taraba: I've heard from my mentor.
Taraba: That some stubborn geezer in Mars had a disciple who is a Shurite genius.
Taraba: However... the one I want to meet is not you.
Zekka: What!?


page 21
sfx: Stomp
sfx: Step


page 22
panel1
Taraba: Toji from Super Electromagnetic Karate!!
Taraba: I request one round with you.
panel2
Toji: To be standing with the legendary fighter Taraba... I can't feel more honored!!
panel4
J. Gerambo: Mr. Hopper, this is...
H. Hopper: Shhh!!
H. Hopper txt: Silence!!


page 24
panel1
Daikoku: A... A draw!?
panel2
Zekka: No...
panel3
Toji: I'm defeated!!
panel4
Toji: If this were a real fight, my palm would have shattered then...
Toji: And your thrust would have split me in half...!!
panel5
Taraba: Toji take a good look.
Taraba: This disastrous condition!!


page 25
panel1
Taraba: This hellish carnage scene brought by violence and selfishness!!
Taraba: Isn't this like a miniature copy of the current world condition?
panel2
Taraba: A Karate Planet filled with this chaos...
Taraba: You think you can settle on this to establish your Karate Planet!?
panel3
Toji: There are many Karate schools... there's no merit in being critical of these non-mainstream and heretic Karate schools.
Toji: I believe that as long as there is devotion, more roads will be opened!!


page 26
panel1
<Taraba: His nature, such a stubborn naivety. >
<Taraba: Yet, there's a glimpse of great talent. >
panel2
Taraba: Please, stand.
panel3
Taraba: This old man's life... I ask you to make good use of it!!
Toji: Taraba-dono...!!
panel4
Rakan: hihihihi!!


page 27
panel1
Rakan: Ahh untalented, untalented!!
Rakan: You're all untalented!!
Rakan sfx: hihihihihi
panel2
Rakan: Umm!?
Rakan sfx: sniff, sniff
Rakan: uhumm?
panel3
Rakan: I found a girl!!
panel4
Toji: Wa... Wait!!
panel5
<Toji: Too fast!>


page 28
panel1
Rakan: Unwahh!!
panel2
<Rakan: Umha!?
sfx: Phyuuuu
panel3
<Rakan: Just now, I'm sure it hit...>
<Rakan: but my fingers feel so lonelyyy...!>
panel4
<Rakan: What!?>
<Rakan: What's this>
sfx x 3: step


page 29
panel1
Rakan: Hyowahhh
panel2
J. Gerambo: What!? Suddenly, Rakan from Armor-piercing Karate crashed into the wall!!
H. Hopper: What a careless person...
panel3
Taraba: She used mental emptyness to manipulate the mind (spirit).
Toji: The mind (spirit)!?
panel4
Taraba: That girl... her technique has reached a marvelous level.
<Taraba: But, is she even aware of it...? >
panel5
Alita: Toji.
Alita: About your previous question.


page 30
Alita: Right now, my body and spirit are moving freely.
Alita: I don't feel like losing to anyone.

page 31
panel1
<Alita: But that resembles the sensation of falling from a high place...>
<Alita: Mysteriously floating and a sense of isolation... >
panel2
<Alita: Accelarating as I'm still falling >
<Alita: I wonder what's waiting just up ahead...?>
Text: An all-mighty and dangerous loophole, Alita has found...!?
This last one is kinda hard to define which one is the right meaning, "hazama" can mean Ravine, Valley, Gorge, Interval or Loophole. And I remember it also refers to the purgatory or space before hell, but this might be wrong.



Finished the basic script. I just need to add a footnote and TL note about the "Neko no Myojutsu" at the end of page 13

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:42 pm
by Akumeno
yay thanks!

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:38 pm
by hyatt
The "new guy" reminds me of Don Fua in a bad disguise. Can I get some confirmation?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:07 pm
by Cailon
Kamui04 wrote:The new guy doesn't seem to be Don Fua. From what Zekka said, he killed Don Fua in Titan and made all this fuzz in the ZOTT to draw out this guy which seems to have been hiding/living in seclusion. His school seems to be Shurite, one of the original Okinawan styles from the 18th century. Take this with a grain of salt since I still need to fully translate, this stuff is what I picked up from what I'd understand without picking a dictionary.

Master says he isn't. Lets trust master, cause he can read and write ;). Lets wait for the grain of salt^^

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:54 pm
by Kamui04
Just updating the thread. The script is basically finished, just need to add a footnote on page 13.

And I got the schools mixed on my original quick preview. The final version has Taraba referring to Zekka as the one who know Shurite, whereas Taraba comes from a school that evolved from Uechi-Ryu. Both are Okinawan karate schools.