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Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:22 pm
by Sergio Nova
zhek wrote:So you can't make this connection because real-life rockstars don't act like comic book characters and go around kicking people in the face? Spergin'.
There's no use in keeping this debate. You believe in stereotypes.
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:37 pm
by zhek
I have no idea what point you're trying to make. I'd like to see what you're thinking, though. Maybe we misunderstand.
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:25 am
by HumanRage
as i said, Zekka couldn't have listened any other music but heavy rock
this is just like that, leather pants, jacket and vest, drinking booze all time long, beeing an anarchist (good old fashioned sex pistols punk, anyone ?), no really there is not any doubt, he is a "rock" person

Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:03 am
by Rindain
Sergio...
You know how Johnny Depp based his performance of Jack Sparrow on Keith Richards, the legendary guitarist for the Rolling Stones?
Kishiro has based a lot of Zekka's character on the rockstar archetype as well.
As you may know, Kishiro is a music/metal fan. Putting Zekka on the cover in a rock band with the Karatekas is Kishiro's way of having some fun and "winking" at the reader.
And if you don't understand this, I'm sorry, but you're the one with the malfunctioning chip.
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:15 am
by Sergio Nova
Is that really so difficult to understand?
I simply said that in NO moment Zekka was shown singing or as part of a rock band. I simply said that THIS part of his personality has NEVER been shown. I simply implied that a cover picturing him as a rock star was NOT correspondent to any page shown up to now. I daresay it is a sort of poetic license, to say the least.
I think I have not been speaking Greek, have I?
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:27 am
by Rindain
OK, I understand what you are saying now. You are correct that Zekka has not literally done any singing in a band so far in Gunnm, and you are also correct that this cover is different from all previous covers in that it portrays a character doing something that he has not done so far in the comic.
It's the first time Kishiro has taken "poetic license" in this way for a cover, as far as I know.
I was just saying that I understand why Kishiro chose this cover, as Zekka's personality is similar to the stereotypical rock star personality. Kishiro is just playing around, having some fun with his characters.
I hope this clears things up!
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:21 am
by zhek
Talk about tumbling of empty barrels.
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:36 pm
by Cailon
Lets say, some covers display the deepest feeling or function of a character in the manga or at the moment of the story. Like Sechs flying crazy through the arena (he had some rampage in that volume), Caerula in front of the rocket (a new world and she is part of it) or like Alita on the "Angel Lake" (or Cake) cover ("Water of Styx", Alita is sort of dead, she is struggling to be reborn).
Now we have the same thing with Zekka, although I admit its a bit over the top.
Also I'm a bit sad, that Olympe or Ygrek didn't make it on the cover, but Rakan did.
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:19 pm
by zhek
Good point. I'd love to see a colored group drawing of Ygrec, Pissarro and Olympe.
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:32 pm
by Sergio Nova
Cailon wrote:Lets say, some covers display the deepest feeling or function of a character in the manga or at the moment of the story. Like Sechs flying crazy through the arena (he had some rampage in that volume), Caerula in front of the rocket (a new world and she is part of it) or like Alita on the "Angel Lake" (or Cake) cover ("Water of Styx", Alita is sort of dead, she is struggling to be reborn).
Now we have the same thing with Zekka, although I admit its a bit over the top.
Also I'm a bit sad, that Olympe or Ygrek didn't make it on the cover, but Rakan did.
Your interpretation is perfect, man!
As to Olympe and Ygrek on the cover, I would love, certainly!

Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:37 am
by andlgx
yay ^_^
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:41 am
by Dharko
EXCELLENT andlgx!!!
Please, if You could scanner the covers and extra pages for us [in High Quality if is possible] please for complete the edition!!
and, tell me please the phases of this vol. 076 to...
Will be very very grateful!!
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:02 am
by vilma21
ah yes i shall be ordering my book soon too.. come on pay day!!
very nice but yes scan it good!!
Re: Where's my Baa fix!!??
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:15 pm
by andlgx
phases75-81