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Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:14 am
by Sergio Nova
ulysses wrote:
If that is true, then he has used plastic surgery extensively. I've never seen such a thin and rectilinear nose, not even on a greek statue.
Europeans differ in biotype from Portugal to Russia.
Asians differ in biotype from Korea to Manchuria.
Do you really believe all Negroes are alike? There are more than 300 different races in Africa. Besides, he does not have to be 100% Negro.
If you intend to make Michael Jackson-like ironies, I can accept, but as far as I know, the only relation between Kenyans and American Negroes is the president now.
Anyway, the idea of giving him a Kenyan name was not mine. The idea of giving him such characteristics is not mine either. But I have never seen such a dark Greek.
Well, you could mention the "burnt faces" (Ethiopians, from Greek language), but they do not combine either.
Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:39 am
by kamugin
I don't think Mbadi is black (using this word is offensive? If it is, I'm sorry, I have no intention to offend anybody, I'm of mixed race myself), I think he is more like arab or hindu. Yukito's characters like Zazie, Rakan and some others are clearly black albeit being cyborgs.
Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:34 am
by ulysses
Sergio wrote:
Europeans differ in biotype from Portugal to Russia.
Asians differ in biotype from Korea to Manchuria.
Do you really believe all Negroes are alike? There are more than 300 different races in Africa. Besides, he does not have to be 100% Negro.
If you intend to make Michael Jackson-like ironies, I can accept, but as far as I know, the only relation between Kenyans and American Negroes is the president now.
I know, there are a lot of different types among people, the vast majority of which I have never seen. And I couldn't comment specifically on Kenyan people, since I don't know any of them personnally. Actually the only kenyan people I have seen were on pictures, they were guides in a safari on one of my uncles' picture album (you can laugh), so my knowledge of the Kenyan biotype is severely limited.
It's just that the facial features of M'Badi really didn't match the "Kenyan guy cliché" I have been carrying in my head.
Well after all M'badi is a man from the 24th century or so. So he is likely to be a subtle mix of generations of the humans having survived the great winter.
Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:41 am
by Sergio Nova
kamugin wrote:I don't think Mbadi is black (using this word is offensive? If it is, I'm sorry, I have no intention to offend anybody, I'm of mixed race myself), I think he is more like arab or hindu. Yukito's characters like Zazie, Rakan and some others are clearly black albeit being cyborgs.
No offense at all. Actually, many Americans consider
Negro to be offensive. As I use the word in its precise meaning (and I don't give a shit to political correctness), I prefer to define myself as
Negro.
Anyway, ulyssses is right about Mbadi's characteristics, but his skin color is far from Arabs. His name, I insist, is phonetically African.
As I said, there are more than 300 ethnic groups.
AS to Zazie, it is difficult to identify her, as she is a Negress in a teutophone culture.
Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:17 am
by kamugin
Sergio wrote:No offense at all. Actually, many Americans consider Negro to be offensive. As I use the word in its precise meaning (and I don't give a shit to political correctness), I prefer to define myself as Negro.
Don't start using
nigger though or someone will kick your ass!
Sergio wrote:Anyway, ulyssses is right about Mbadi's characteristics, but his skin color is far from Arabs. His name, I insist, is phonetically African.
As I said, there are more than 300 ethnic groups.
AS to Zazie, it is difficult to identify her, as she is a Negress in a teutophone culture.
Yes, it's better define him as of mixed race, he could be our
mulato type

(
mulato, an offspring of a Black and a White parent)
I think only the ancient Martians like the kunstlers were teutophones, or maybe even only the founder of the style was and the German names are being preserved by tradition.
Zazie being a German speaking black isn't that improbable, even today we see black players in the German Football team (Hitler must be twisting himself inside his grave

)
Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:03 pm
by Sergio Nova
kamugin wrote:Don't start using nigger though or someone will kick your ass!
But nigger
IS offensive.
kamugin wrote:Yes, it's better define him as of mixed race, he could be our mulato type

(mulato, an offspring of a Black and a White parent)
The spelling in English is
mulatto, simply. The problem is that such a noun should, I daresay, be considered offensive. It comes from
mule, a sub-race. Thus, the word itself compares someone of mixed ancestry with an animal unable to reproduce due to its poor genetics.
kamugin wrote: even today we see black players in the German Football team (Hitler must be twisting himself inside his grave

)
1. The Negroes in German national team are "imported".
2. I want Hitler and his partisans to fuck off - in history or in comtemporary days. Hallelujah, Jesse Owens!!
Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:33 pm
by kamugin
Sergio wrote:The spelling in English is mulatto, simply. The problem is that such a noun should, I daresay, be considered offensive. It comes from mule, a sub-race. Thus, the word itself compares someone of mixed ancestry with an animal unable to reproduce due to its poor genetics.
1. The Negroes in German national team are "imported".
I don't take offense being called
mulato, but you are right, let's use
pardo instead. But none of these words in Portuguese are totally free of prejudice and depreciation though
Today the German blacks may be imported but in the distant future BAA is set they could be legitimate Germans

Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:59 pm
by Sergio Nova
kamugin wrote:
I don't take offense being called mulato, but you are right, let's use pardo instead.
Pardo? Never!!
Pardo means
dirty white, if you are not aware. Call me
mestizo (when necessary) - or just call me a man. Most of the times, the information is dispensable.
Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:25 pm
by kamugin
Sergio wrote:Pardo? Never!! Pardo means dirty white, if you are not aware. Call me mestizo (when necessary) - or just call me a man. Most of the times, the information is dispensable.
Ok, you're right again. Asking about someone's "race" is already offensive, although the black movement here in Brazil want to divide all our people in white or black, following the US black movement model.
Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:12 pm
by Sergio Nova
kamugin wrote:
Ok, you're right again. Asking about someone's "race" is already offensive, although the black movement here in Brazil want to divide all our people in white or black, following the US black movement model.
Well, stupid people sprout all around in Brazil. Remember
Luiz Mott and his obsession in saying that everyone is homosexual.

That is exactly what I name a faggot!! As to
Fernando Conceição and his obsession about racial identification, he should give me a break!

Re: Trinidad Speculation
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:02 pm
by Sergio Nova
One thing is certain: during this hiatus Kishiro will develop some side stories.
A green bird told me one of them will tell us
Aga Mbadi's origin.
Our questions will have an answer, after all.
