GLO 112 raw

[bhaal]

People in scrapyard belive Gally is dead, remember the end of Zapan in berserk body ark-start of tuned ark?, even Vector stated it.
Then come tuned ark, people who crossed ways with Gally/angel of dead dont know about her past, and she as no more contact with scrapyard, years pass and start the bar jack ark, met and leave Figure, and after granite in fight Gally was KIA for Tiphares control and for rest of the people who know her as angel of death her status was unknown until Cenit transmission.

[Isidorios]

I forsee Sechs fighting through Figure to destroy this AR unit (at the cost of her arm to his Hertza Haeon?), and to reveal her own identity as yet another copy of Alita, ending their conflict.
This promises to be really, really interesting, and I'm incredibly curious to see how Figure links up with Ido and Sechs with Nova.

[Sam]

(at the cost of her arm to his Hertza Haeon?)

If I well remember, Zechs says that she lost her arm in a fight with Elf or Zwolf (or both). It is said in GLO vol.2 when those two are fighting Sachumodo.

[AR-99]

Yes, due to a mono-molecular wire trap (Phase 7).

The pistol that the caravan brings is not Alita's because it was destroyed during the fight with Eelai in the Granite Inn. Most likely it is from one of the ARs that Sechs killed as it couldn't have come from AR-2 (wasn't issued one) or AR-10 (may have had one, but it would have been destroyed during the fight with Fury).

It was mentioned that Figure wasn't watching the ZOTT Finals in Vol. 14, but he couldn't have if he wasn't near a TV at the time and the timing of the Finals and his later appearance suggests that he wasn't.

[HumanRage]

or he will die in a couple chapters

[othergrunty]

Yes, due to a mono-molecular wire trap (Phase 7).

The pistol that the caravan brings is not Alita's because it was destroyed during the fight with Eelai in the Granite Inn. Most likely it is from one of the ARs that Sechs killed as it couldn't have come from AR-2 (wasn't issued one) or AR-10 (may have had one, but it would have been destroyed during the fight with Fury).

Actualy here is another funny idea. Maybe it's Sechs' own gun.

In her short flashback after getting Zekka's really fast punch in the gut, we saw this scene.
http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2906/redrrf47_png.htm

Sechs' looks pretty worn out in this image and the following page shows her fighting her way through dunes and harsh winds. Also we see that she allready lost the left eye which means the ear is also allready gone, indicating some heavy fighting previously.

So it's likely she left it there near the car, where the scavengers then found it.

Hey maybe it's a chekov's gun and Figure actualy bought and has it right now.

Oh my god i just realised something. Figure is a big manly guy, who wears boots with metal plates on them and has spiky black hair, is somewhat dumb, but a great fighter. Sechs in her current form is a big guy, who likes wearing boots with metal plates on them and has spiky black hair, is somewhat dumb but a great fighter.

SECHS IS IMMITATING FIGURE FOUR!!! That's why she switches to a big guys body. What ever happens in this chapter might cause her to chose Figure as something of a role model and adept herself to it.

... just a theory.

or he will die in a couple chapters

The last chapter (112) showed Figure and Ido together at the day of the last ZOTT, traveling on a truck, so no he won't die in this story.

[Sergio Nova]

... just a theory.

And really interesting.

[Weaper12]

@Rippers: Like I proposed before, I think I can find a TLer from Japanzai for it. However I don't think any of my TLer are reading Gunnm so I'll be guiding them through the TL at first so they can have it easier. Of course I don't say it'll be perfect as there is quite a few technical and hard part in this manga that someone who didn't read it at all might not catch on.
I'm currently moving out so I won't be able to coordinate this before the 3rd of Jun.

[Sergio Nova]

However I don't think any of my TLer are reading Gunnm so I'll be guiding them through the TL at first so they can have it easier. Of course I don't say it'll be perfect as there is quite a few technical and hard part in this manga that someone who didn't read it at all might not catch on.
I'm currently moving out so I won't be able to coordinate this before the 3rd of Jun.

1. That's easy. Once he starts reading he will be interested in the entire series. It has happened to guys whom I know.
2. Someone else moving? Oh, Lord!

[ashod]

Sergio : I will translate chapter 112. I'll see if I can do 111 after...

othergrunty : You call him Figure Four, but in japanese, I'm reading Fo-Gi-A Fo-A. So I don't see why you're calling him figure. In the official french translation, he's called Fogia Four. If you have some explanations for the Figure name you're using, I'd like to understand.

[AR-99]

2 words: Viz Media

Which is why we also have Alita instead of Gally and several other name changes.

[HumanRage]

Sergio : I will translate chapter 112. I'll see if I can do 111 after...

othergrunty : You call him Figure Four, but in japanese, I'm reading Fo-Gi-A Fo-A. So I don't see why you're calling him figure. In the official french translation, he's called Fogia Four. If you have some explanations for the Figure name you're using, I'd like to understand.

commercial name changes. translate as it is, we'll take care of the rest

[Sergio Nova]

othergrunty : You call him Figure Four, but in japanese, I'm reading Fo-Gi-A Fo-A. So I don't see why you're calling him figure. In the official french translation, he's called Fogia Four. If you have some explanations for the Figure name you're using, I'd like to understand.

Figure Four is the name adopted in Viz's edition.

[othergrunty]

Figure Four is the name adopted in Viz's edition.

Just checked. In my german version he is also named Foggier Four. But since i started reading the series online, the Viz version of his name must have been stuck in my head.

Ah yes, the beauty of different translations. Gally or Alita. Sechs with Z, X or S? Tiphares or Zalem? Can get confusing sometimes.

[Burning Angel]

Figure Four is a reference to several submission wrestling move.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure-four

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profession ... ur_leglock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wea6hUxE ... re=related

[bonedaddy]

Would like to point out that the burnt out ruins they visit in the rain in the middle of the chapter is the ruins of the Heng (the massive train-gun that Tiphares/Jeru shot down and then sent AR11 to destroy).

This chapter does take place 11 months prior to where we are in the story now.

The old dude is named Tauro (same as the bag he gives Figure).

Figure is hunting down Barjack guys left and right.

The town they end up is called "Bashaku Town" - which literally means something like "borrow horse town," and seems to be a reference to a warring-states-era thing where companies would transport things around via horse (like the Pony Express). More interesting, though, seems to be that the Gunnm side story with Koyomi in it, where the two Dens duel it out, and she finds purpose in life? Is called Bashaku Ondo. May be the same place.

[bonedaddy]

And for the record, in English, Tiphares/Ketheres Elyion are much better names than Jeru and Salem. The latter is just a shitty split-up of Jerusalem, not to mention the fact that Salem is the name of a famous town in the American northeast where witches were burnt to death several hundred years ago.

Tiphares and Ketheres Elyion reference the Kabbalic tree of life (you know, the thing that was all over Evangelion, as well as the thing that Sephiroth in FF7 was named after). Tiphares is the aspect of god relating to glory, and is best translated as "splendor." Ketheres Elyion is the uppermost rung of the sephirot and means "the crown of god." Given that she was ascending from the earth (lowest rung on the sephirot - malkhut), to glory, and finally to the crown of the world? Makes sense. Throughout the thing they refer to her as an angel and she is constantly depicted as having wings, so... Viz did a pretty good job with the translation (honestly I think it fits better than what Yukito came up with originally).

[othergrunty]

@bonedaddy

I'm pretty sure everyone here has read the original and when we see giant melted remains of a massive train who drove on two tracks, we know what it was and how it ended up like that.

Also it was GR-10 since GR-11 is Elf and still alive.

[bonedaddy]

Sorry, you're right - lord, need to re-read the originals.

[bonedaddy]

Sorry if all that was super-obvious to everyone else - I'm a little slow, thought I'd toss it out there in case anyone else is as dumb as I am.

[Abaddon]

And for the record, in English, Tiphares/Ketheres Elyion are much better names than Jeru and Salem. The latter is just a shitty split-up of Jerusalem, not to mention the fact that Salem is the name of a famous town in the American northeast where witches were burnt to death several hundred years ago.

Salem wasn't spelled as Zalem in the japanese Gunnm?

Anyway, when I read/hear that name I think in this instead of the town

[bonedaddy]

I think it was spelled Zalem (ザレム), but given that the whole gag is that it's splitting up the word "Jerusalem," I can't imagine them translating it as Zalem. Although who knows.

[ashod]

In french edition, it is translated/called Zalem.
Jerusalem is spelled Jeruzalem anyways in french, because when the letter S is between two vowels, it is spelled as a Z.

I didn't get much time to work on the translation.
I'm only halfway done. Will post something as soon as possible guys.

[bonedaddy]

Hard to argue the correct S/Z spelling of Jerusalem in the first place, since in Hebrew it's "Yerushalayim."

[Sergio Nova]

Hard to argue the correct S/Z spelling of Jerusalem in the first place, since in Hebrew it's "Yerushalayim."

The Hebrew name (ירושלים) is problematic, as it is not exactly written in Latin.

As to Latin alphabet, we have:
Jerusalém in Portuguese
Jerusalem, in English, German, Basque, Catalan, Dannish, Latin, Finnish, Norwegian,
Jérusalem in French
Jerusalén in Spanish
Jeruusalemma, in Estonian
Jerwsalem in Gaelic
Jerúsalem in Icelandic

There are lots of other variations, but the great majority will insist in spelling "s".