GLO 111 Translation Script

[CharyOdd]

With help of translator if you write "yu pi tan" in phonetical letter you will have "boiled capitalists".

Now you have a point. We should pay attention to that.

You have a point with that name Zeus. I think, if we look at beginning you have better call.

I have a little anecdote about name's from manga.

In Poland where I live there were made scanlation's of BLEACH manga where everything is (in major) about sword fighting of japanese "death god's" between wraiths.
And here comes the trick.
In manga/anime there is used word hallow's for wraith's. ("Ha ro wu" or smth like that)
And than you have one chain: hallow's = wraith's = wight's = spectre = shade.
And another chain: hallow = void = empty space
And another chain: hallow = "something holy" = "something blessed" (Like "Harry Potter and Deathly hallows")

Imagine that scanlation scane chosen the strangest explanation of all.
Hallow = empty space. (because of empty circle in body of every hallow). So in Poland Hallow's have become Empty's in polish language. If i talk fellow countrymen about BLECH i have Jackie Chan's face and total mind f...

Sooo it's beter to beware of strange names.

[ashod]

Nice work guys, here are two more pages. These sentences are killing my brain...!


Sergio Nova, I think your proposition is altering the facts once again.

"I've just escaped on a life pod from the evacuated Onion Frame!"

This word I linked earlier, "投棄 abandonment; giving up; throwing away; disposal; dumping", is about the "forced ejection protocol" of the onion frame from the main body of ketheres, caused by Mbadi (see chapter 110 pages 13-15).
So I think "evacuated" doesn't really apply here.

Sam's proposition seems nice :

I've escaped in a life pod from the onion frame that was just thrown away!

Maybe we could alter it a bit to make it more understandable.

I've escaped in a life pod from the onion frame that was ejected into space!

Keep proposing until we have the best sentence!

[Sergio Nova]

All right! The problem with the text is that it would apply in a structure involving a theoretical possibility of variations:

She has just left the building that was in fire.

Once there are lots of buildings in a city (and millions on the planet) the sentence does make sense, as it is specifying the building in case.

There is only one Onion Frame, so what we have here is an appositive:

I've just escaped in a life pod from the Onion Frame, that was ejected into space!

Once again, the comma makes the difference.

[Sergio Nova]

Page 2
Jerambo: Riots have started in each and every colony of the Earth Orbitary Federation and the authorities are trying to restore order. (excessive pronoun that)
Jerambo: But that information was incomplete due to complications, and we cannot verify its authenticity. (respiration)

Page 3
Arthur: Then, that is how it shall be done. (comma; does that solve the question?)

Page 9
Alita: There, I met an artificial intelligence calling itself Yupitan. (excessive preposition; what is the decision here?)

Page 10
Alita: You’re such an eyeball on its high horse… (What does that mean?)
Yupitan: I’ve observed your real body getting scattered in small pieces!! You’re too late. (verbal tense)

Page 11
Yupitan: It seems you’re composed of all data sent here using the hyperspace channel within the wormhole reactor. (verbosity)
Yupitan: I guess you cannot comprehend anything with your intelligence that equals that of a germ!! (commoner)
Yupitan: That is why, from now on, I will abuse you as my pet for eternity!! (coma, excessive preposition) [insert hentai sequence here ]
Alita: By no means!! (Actually, the meaning is the same and the interpretation - if it is more dramatic or not - is subjective).

Page 12
Yupitan: A unit from Melchizedek, earth’s quantum convergence observation system, huh? (spelling)
Arthur: For example, allowing Gally to return to the finals would greatly alter the future, don’t you think so? (no reason for the preposition)
Yupitan: The observed outcome would greatly change, I guess. (missing comma)

Page 13
Yupitan: But that has nothing to do with us, rulers of the Jovian Troposphere!! (adjective)
Yupitan: No, the annihilation of the Earth Orbitary Federation and the LADDER congress would rather be a good opportunity for the Jupiter confederation! (spelling, although I am not sure if we should use the noun or the adjective here; what would be the correct preposition here - to or for?)

[Burning Angel]

Beat me again, Mr Sergio Nova...

Page 1

J: This is Jack Geruranboo for Combat TV. // This is Jack Gerambo for Combat TV.


Page 13

Yupitan: No, the annihilation of the Earth Orbitary Federation and the LADDER congress would rather be a good opportunity for the Jupter confederation! // No, the annihilation of the Earth Orbitary Federation and the LADDER Council would rather be a good opportunity for the Jupiter System Union!

I've observed that the Jupiter confederation would conquer the Solar system in less than 30 years!! // I've observed that the Jupiter System Union would conquer the Solar system in less than 30 years!!

[ashod]

Here's another page.
Nice work, both of you! I've put most of your corrections in the edit.

Sergio, any other propositions then "by no means"?
It's a bit too classy and lady like, while in japanese, there's really that childish feeling of not wanting to do something for an adult!

[Burning Angel]

Page 1

J: This is Jack Geramboo for Combat TV. // This is Jack Gerambo for Combat TV.

I’ve just escaped on a life pod from the Onion Frame that was thrown away. (lifesaving pod?) (So what would be the definite version of the sentence?)

Page 14

Arthur: Even though we’ve noticed our mutual existence, we couldn’t have a discussion until now, blocked by the wall of military secret. // Even though we’ve noticed our mutual existence, we couldn’t have a discussion until now, blocked by the wall of military secrets.

[Sergio Nova]

Here's another page.
Nice work, both of you! I've put most of your corrections in the edit.

Sergio, any other propositions then "by no means"?
It's a bit too classy and lady like, while in japanese, there's really that childish feeling of not wanting to do something for an adult!

The most colloquial equivalent I now is not really.

[Sergio Nova]

Page 14
Arthur: What would you do if Melchizedek observed a future completely different from the one you saw? (structure)

[Burning Angel]

I’ve just escaped on a life pod from the Onion Frame that was thrown away. (lifesaving pod?)

Sergio, what would be the definite version for this sentence?

[Burning Angel]

The most colloquial equivalent I now is not really.

The most colloquial equivalent I now is no way...

[Sergio Nova]

Sergio, what would be the definite version for this sentence?

I would prefer

I've just escaped in a life pod from the Onion Frame, that was ejected into space!

Otherwise, without the comma, it will be understood that the life pod was thrown away, while the text refers to the Onion Frame, disconnected from Jeru-Ketheres and left haphazard.

[Sergio Nova]

The most colloquial equivalent I now is not really.

The most colloquial equivalent I now is no way...

Typing mistake. I should have written The most colloquial equivalent I know. According to the situation, no way will sound rude, I think.

[Burning Angel]

I would prefer

I've just escaped in a life pod from the Onion Frame, that was ejected into space!

Otherwise, without the comma, it will be understood that the life pod was thrown away, while the text refers to the Onion Frame, disconnected from Jeru-Ketheres and left haphazard.

Well then ashod...

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I’ve just escaped on a life pod from the Onion Frame that was thrown away. (lifesaving pod?) // I've just escaped in a life pod from the Onion Frame, that was ejected into space!

[ashod]

Yet another page added to the translation.

I think "no way" suits this situation better. It's a little hentai joke, so it won't have that rude feeling you're talking about.

About the Yupitan name : Read the following note about something Gally says in this page to understand my position on this matter.

"the – after yuppi is just to tell you guys the last syllable is double length, help me on the correct spelling. This pun means we have to keep the Yupitan name as well".

[Burning Angel]

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J: This is Jack Geramboo for Combat TV. // This is Jack Gerambo for Combat TV. (His name is Jack Gerambo)

Page 15

Yupitan: Depending on how you will define yourself, it will not only change your destiny,

But even universe’s karmic flaw will be greatly altered by it!! // But even the universe’s karmic flow will be greatly altered by it!!

I think "no way" suits this situation better. It's a little hentai joke, so it won't have that rude feeling you're talking about.

What do you think, Sergio?

[Sergio Nova]

I think "no way" suits this situation better. It's a little hentai joke, so it won't have that rude feeling you're talking about.

What do you think, Sergio?

As I said, it is a case of interpretation. So, it is acceptable.

[ChaosConfetti]

But, in Japanese, it's clearly "YU-PI-TA-N" that is used, and I didn't find any hint anywhere that would indicate a link between the word Yupitan and Zeus... So yeah, you choose what makes you happy. But I think Alita and other strange names is bad enough.

Targa explains the problem here:
http://forum.rippersanime.info/viewtopi ... Deus#p9192

In short, Yukito opted for an alternative name for the supercomputer, once Jupiter in Japanese would be Mokusei. In English, to repeat the name would be redundant, so he opted for an alternative name as well. Actually, he wanted Deus, but I myself pointed that it would be problematic in some languages where it remits to God himself, especially Portuguese - where God is… Deus.

It's actually quite clever. In classical Latin, Iupiter would be pronounced yu-pi-ter. Besides, not only was Iupiter identified with the Greek god Zeus classically, they share a common etymology. An archaic title for Zeus was Zeus Pater, which means "sky father". And if you thought they sounded similar before, it's actually more complicated. Another Latinate name for Iupter was Diespiter, also likely descended from the same proto-Indo-European Dyeus ph-ter. D and Z were also closely intertwined in many Greek alphabets, and thus Deus was another name for Zeus.

[ashod]

Two more pages added.

ChaosConfetti : thanks for the information, it's interesting indeed. But even without knowing all the background, I don't think keeping Yupitan would be problematic. Jupiter, Yupitan, it's easy to make a link based on phonetics even for people not aware of all the history of the original word.

Keeping it like Kishiro wrote it would make the pun's possible too and stay truthful to the manga.

But if I'm the only one thinking that... then maybe we should reconsider.

[Sam]

Arthur: I would like to do that. But to restore your body, it will be necessary for you to be self conscious and reach a “high level of mind/soul/heart/spirit/intention focus”.

Could you say :

it will be necessary for you to be self conscious and reach a “high level of awareness" ?
which could relate to all of these words at the same time

[AR-99]

I'm in favor of sticking with Yupitan. If Kodansha Comics USA decides to change it to something else we will deal with the name discrepancy then.

[Burning Angel]

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Yupitan: Rest assured, both Melchizedek and I draw a line with the planetary governments.
We won’t inform the confederation about you. // We won’t inform the Union about you.

Gally: That’s too evil/sinful!! // That's awful.

Yupitan: Give up already, you’ve been live broadcasting everything you see and hear from the moment the entanglement was made anyway. // Give up already, you’ve been broadcasting us everything you've seen and heard from the moment the entanglement was made anyway.

A vague resolution/readiness will probably end in a failed restoration. // If you lack resolve, it will probably lead to a failed restoration.

Is this the “undesirable but inseparable relationship”? (This is a Japanese expression)

Is there a Westernized version of this phrase?

[HumanRage]

sometimes translated as "my best ennemy" (as in "so much of an ennemy, he became a friend/i respected him that much")

will be hard to solve !

[Burning Angel]

sometimes translated as "my best ennemy" (as in "so much of an ennemy, he became a friend/i respected him that much")

will be hard to solve !

How about "Unholy Alliance"?

[ashod]

Hey guys, you have some extensive corrections to make to the new things i've just added.

Burning Angel : your proposition "that's awful" doesn't really apply here. She's just saying two words in japanese, but it literally means "you're overboard bad". (more than enough). I've kept all your other propositions.

Sam: I've added your proposition as well.

as for "Is this the “undesirable but inseparable relationship”?", I've found that sentence in the dictionnary, so unless you find a perfect match, we'll keep it. But I don't think unholy alliance really applies here.