GLO100

[crazyankan]

We need some raws too turn this topic back to normal.

[TargaryenX]

If you're hiding a raw source somewhere, better cough it up!

[mogg]

i have just got my uberjump this morning, am half way though my trans, ill take picture and post them asap

[mogg]

The only thing I can guess is that Japan is a pretty mono-national country with nearly no assimilations, and, maybe, is free from racial problems. However, that's just a guess.

Japan is a country where foreign ppl is mostly openly called "gaijin", that is a term not much different from "dirty nigger". Intresting thing is that, according to a nigerian friend of minie, white ppl in Nigeria are often called with a word that can be translated "dirty white man".

Seems like only western ppl care about politically correct.

thats not true. if some one is ignorant then they use gaijin. its means literally "foriegner" , whereas the term "Gaikokujin" (foriegn person) is a neutral term. If your friend is Nigerian then i have to admit then he does have the reputation on the average internet scam working against him, as well as a very large nigerian mafia in tokyo working agianst any good intentions he has. I have no doubt that he is a hardworking guy, but you have to understand, that the average jpnese and my own experience in a large city like tokyo is nothing but terrible, and ive lived in Africa.
If they were talking about your friend theyd have said Kokujin not Hakujin, both are dependant upon the sitution whether they are techncal words or insults (african/caucasian compared to ..../....)
Are Japanese in general terms used to foriegners? no
Are they tolerant? over whelmingly yes,
Do they undestand foriegners? this is a philosophical question based upon experience and depends upon the situation, generally do they understand- no, but neither do we them.

[mogg]

lol at this thread

this morning, i hesitated to reply that every damn country in this world is racist and only a very few of those had a public debate place for this subject...

...

my opinion is that "don't get offended that easily" and "politically correctness is the great evil, it is not a safe replacement for good education and behaviour correctness"

and on a personal level, racist jokes are amongst the funniest ones but you can't tell them to anyone, this needs some higher level thinking, to dissociate the humour from the people and their drama.

Reminds me, as a german, most of us who aren't unnatural bald no brainers who's right forarm seems to be locked in raised possitions or pot smoking complainers who demand that our nation should completly remove all our military, it's always difficult to say ANYTHING negative about another ethnic group.

Because all too often someone will pull out the NAZI card.

So non of us can even pull racist jokes.

Funny enough the people from the ethnic groups (often 2nd generation imigrants) appear in our comedy clubs and make fun of their own people while making fun of us at the same time.

We are not as humorless as some people claim.

Hmm any news of chapter 100?

I dont know some of the sickest jokes ive heard in irony where by german friends of mine. I agree totally that political correctness is wrong fundamentally. Any form of censure is intrinsically wrong as language and its usuage is determined by context and the society it is reproduced in. It's like saying swearing is wrong, however in russian swearing as understood in english is an intrinsic part of the language, it depends upon the situation. A friend passed her masters dictation because she added the russian equivalent of a "fuck" here and a "shit, balls" there, otherwise she would have failed for being 'unnatural'. As an old past master "Leih Tsu"said , if you wish to stop criminal behaviour, educate the population. It's all too easy to legislate and create a huge number of wholely untenable laws. Force and coercion in both the physical and mental meanings are tools of the truely incompitent

[Gatekpr]

I dont know some of the sickest jokes ive heard in irony where by german friends of mine. I agree totally that political correctness is wrong fundamentally. Any form of censure is intrinsically wrong as language and its usuage is determined by context and the society it is reproduced in. It's like saying swearing is wrong, however in russian swearing as understood in english is an intrinsic part of the language, it depends upon the situation. A friend passed her masters dictation because she added the russian equivalent of a "fuck" here and a "shit, balls" there, otherwise she would have failed for being 'unnatural'. As an old past master "Leih Tsu"said , if you wish to stop criminal behaviour, educate the population. It's all too easy to legislate and create a huge number of wholely untenable laws. Force and coercion in both the physical and mental meanings are tools of the truely incompitent

Mogg, stop being intelligent. You're making the other members feel bad.

[HumanRage]

the best way to solve criminality issues, is to fix what makes people becoming criminals in the first place, and it's mainly : poverty, uneducation, violent parents, sexual abuses and lack of spirituality (not saying religion, but spirituality : meaning of life, who am i, where do i come, where do i want to go, etc.)

[Sergio Nova]

the best way to solve criminality issues, is to fix what makes people becoming criminals in the first place, and it's mainly : poverty, uneducation, violent parents, sexual abuses and lack of spirituality (not saying religion, but spirituality : meaning of life, who am i, where do i come, where do i want to go, etc.)

Great! The symptoms are clearly identified. We just have to find out the medicine.

[Sam]

The answer is clearly: Kill'em all!!
More seriously, is that should be in a special thread? Like: Why people are so dumb? or My final solution? (already done I think by a guy who wrote Mein kampf)

[crazyankan]

Lemonlol wrote to me "Ritual Scan Forge wrote:
The author says that there's no resumption date for GLO, for now."

[Sergio Nova]

My final solution? (already done I think by a guy who wrote Mein kampf)

Some jokes are bad taste, only. Nothing else!

[Sergio Nova]

Lemonlol wrote to me "Ritual Scan Forge wrote:
The author says that there's no resumption date for GLO, for now."

Bad news.

[Sam]

The author says that there's no resumption date for GLO, for now."

Yes I've seen that. That means that after glo100 we will maybe never have a GLO chapter again!!!!!!!!!!

[Cailon]

The author says that there's no resumption date for GLO, for now."

Yes I've seen that. That means that after glo100 we will maybe never have a GLO chapter again!!!!!!!!!!

Wait, what? It's this serious? D: Please no!

[Megan_Gale]

Let's consider the main point here:

YUKITO KISHIRO IS BEING FORCED TO ALTER HIS MANGA TO LESS-EXPLICITLY DEPICT A SOCIETY TORN ASUNDER BY MADNESS.
BECAUSE THE MENTALLY ILL MAY TAKE OFFENSE.

Where are my conspiracy theorists on this one?! This is some Fahrenheit 451 stuff here. A huge and powerful corporation is telling an author who has made provocative, opinionated prognostications about society throughout his career, to back off. As is often the case minority interests are cited as justification. So he is given no choice but to remove the offensive material.

In the postcapitalist, globalized, corporatized world, censorship doesn't generally happen because the government arrests you for speaking your mind. It happens when the people who control the conduits of communication tell you to behave as they demand or else lose your channel of expression.

What's particularly unnerving about this is that Yukito Kishiro drawing crazed, murderous yuppies declaring war on their offspring (who have real brains) is NINE MONTHS PREGNANT WITH OVERT SOCIOPOLITICAL COMMENTARY!! Baby boomers anybody? Kishiro is an artist of rare sophistication in the shonen manga field, and when he crosses a line there is a very clearly visible intent behind it. If the boys in the backroom are gonna start taking issue with him ideologically, there's a lot of things I'm sure they could find. And they don't ever explicitly articulate it when they do. They just find lots of little places where you make minor infractions, that they can justifiably penalize you for. Like, for example, using offensive terminology to refer to the mentally ill.

I'm not Japanese but in my youth I read enough about Japanese culture to choke a large horse. The consensus seems to be that Japanese culture is quick to shut up its malcontents who voice unpopular viewpoints. I personally enjoyed GLO because it seemed like an exception to this rule. There are SO many fringe concepts on display, and the focus of the narrative has always been about strength of character and the importance of personal liberty. The politically correct climate of the current age downplays liberty for safety, personal expression for group consensus, and a culture of victimhood over personal responsibility. I bet Kishiro's been knocking heads with editors over this stuff for a while.

However, if it's down to Kishiro being asked to play nice or hang up his pen, I couldn't imagine an author of his level of idealistic integrity doing anything other than hanging up his pen. I'll miss GLO, but there are enough supercommercial inoffensive nerd-pandering action comics that I can read already, and I don't need to see GLO become just one more of them.

[Gatekpr]

Kishiro is an artist of rare sophistication in the shonen manga field, and when he crosses a line there is a very clearly visible intent behind it.

That's because this is seinen manga, not shonen. It's aimed at a more adult audience.

[kamugin]

Kishiro is an artist of rare sophistication in the shonen manga field, and when he crosses a line there is a very clearly visible intent behind it.

That's because this is seinen manga, not shonen. It's aimed at a more adult audience.

Yukito's work is light compared to many other mangas like Berserk, Gantz or MPD Psycho for exemple. I think Yukito is being too intransigent about such minor changes his editor suggested. If GLO will have a hiatus it will be because his silliness or perhaps he is just making up an excuse to cover his lack of new ideas. We have seeing that he advanced the story almost nothing in the last three volumes!

[Sergio Nova]

Yukito's work is light compared to many other mangas like Berserk, Gantz or MPD Psycho for exemple. I think Yukito is being too intransigent about such minor changes his editor suggested. If GLO will have a hiatus it will be because his silliness or perhaps he is just making up an excuse to cover his lack of new ideas. We have seeing that he advanced the story almost nothing in the last three volumes!

Excuse me, but the comparison is senseless. Berserk is third-quality work (with lots of senseless violent sequences) and Gantz is eccentric, but far beyond the narrative complexity of BAA. Philosophy, ideologies and psychology are ubiquitous in BAA, and many political systems are embedded in the narrative. The analogy between Camelot and the reconstruction of civilization is a unique example.
I agree ZOTT is endless, but to say that "the story advanced almost nothing in the last three months" is lack of visibility. We were introduced to Martian political system, to say the least, and Erica's fate, that many readers in this forum (I included) were curious about, started being revealed. Do you really believe Kishiro is intransigent? So would I be if anyone tried to interfere in my creation. I don't give a damn to political correctness, for God's sake.

[vilma21]

ah god lets hope things work out.. i'd have to go mad and curse like crazy if this story never get's completed. i will agree the story is kinda gettting of track and lagging..hmm we will have to wait and see.

[kamugin]

Excuse me, but the comparison is senseless. Berserk is third-quality work (with lots of senseless violent sequences) and Gantz is eccentric, but far beyond the narrative complexity of BAA. Philosophy, ideologies and psychology are ubiquitous in BAA, and many political systems are embedded in the narrative. The analogy between Camelot and the reconstruction of civilization is a unique example.
I agree ZOTT is endless, but to say that "the story advanced almost nothing in the last three months" is lack of visibility. We were introduced to Martian political system, to say the least, and Erica's fate, that many readers in this forum (I included) were curious about, started being revealed. Do you really believe Kishiro is intransigent? So would I be if anyone tried to interfere in my creation. I don't give a damn to political correctness, for God's sake.

Let me explain it better so you can grasp the sense in my comparision:

I mentioned Berserker, Gantz and MPD Psycho only to give examples of manga that deals with sensible themes that may offend many people, not to suggest a comparision of merits between them. Instead of those I could have mentioned other mangas as an example: Eden, Ichi the Killer, Deadmen Wonderland, etc.

I don't think you read Berserk. My first impression of Berserk was it was just a display of violence and sick perversions of the author, but since a friend of mine is collecting the Brazilian issue, I gave a look on the new numbers each time I visited him. Little by little the story seemed to be more interesting to me and at some point I decided to download everithing the fans have scanlated until them and read it with care. So my first impression changed completely. Now I think Berserk is a very good manga, one of the best I have read until now. Kentaro Miura, the Berserk author, since the first chapters of his manga, seemed to have the whole story into his mind: beginning, mid and end. By the other hand, Yukito never gave me that impression in GLO, and now he seems lost about what to do with his characters from now on. There are many loose tips that he will need to tie to give his story a satisfactory ending. And I'm more and more convinced that he will not be able to do that! Yukito doesn't have many mangas in his curriculum. BAA and BAA Last Order are his tour de force. BAA he ended abruptly but in a somewhat satisfactory manner, regardless his personal motivations to do that. Aqua Knight was much worse, he simply rushed the story to a frustrating end in the last volume, instead he should have put the manga on hiatus if he was too busy with GLO.

If I understood it right, his disagreement with his editor is just about the change of a few terms in the past issues. If it isn't intransigence I don't know what call it! You may not give a damn about political correctness, me too to tell the truth, but we are not writing to a big audience with money into account! So we may say what we want and fuck everyone that don't like! Yukito doesn't have that freedom. GLO may be his work, but Ultra Jump isn't his property. Because of unrestrained mangakas now we are seeing a very worrisome movement to impose rules and censorship to manga, that will be a disaster. I'm not saying that Yukito is one of the most troublesome authors, his cyberpunk fantasy is harmless in my opinion.

Yukito only gave us a glimpse of the situation in Mars. Erica is alive and she is fighting Mars coalition, that's great! So why not change the story focus to Mars instead of losing so much time with this ZOTT silliness? Fight tournaments are a poor resource of shonen manga when the authors are needing to feed the fans with new chapters but doesn't have any idea of what to do. In this aspect, Yukito is leveling his masterpiece with mangas like Saint Seiya, Yu Yu Hakusho, Dragonball, Naruto, One Piece and many others. Mangas that sells a lot, but that doesn't have almost any substance.

You got me now, Sergio-san?

[Ichigo]

I got my UJ today! So I did a very quick camraw for you guys, I also scaled it down quite a bit, but you should still be able to recognize the main parts. You can only download it 10 times cause I didn't sign up at RS.
http://rapidshare.com/files/402897765/g ... w.rar.html
Enjoy!

[Sergio Nova]

I don't think you read Berserk.

I certainly don't. I gave up in the second volume (fourth in Brazilian edition). I was only wasting my time.

My first impression of Berserk was it was just a display of violence and sick perversions of the author

That's precisely the point.

If it isn't intransigence I don't know what call it

Freedom of speech.

Fight tournaments are a poor resource of shonen manga when the authors are needing to feed the fans with new chapters but doesn't have any idea of what to do. In this aspect, Yukito is leveling his masterpiece with mangas like Saint Seiya, Yu Yu Hakusho, Dragonball, Naruto, One Piece and many others.

That was cruel. I agree about ZOTT "endlesslity", but don't be naïve to put BAA and the mentioned works in the same basket. the straw will tear.

[kamugin]

That was cruel. I agree about ZOTT "endlesslity", but don't be naïve to put BAA and the mentioned works in the same basket. the straw will tear.

Sergio, you are an inteligent person and I respect you mainly because your contribution to GLO scanlation. But regarding Alita you are leveling yourself with that kind of fans that like his object of affection to such extreme that are unable to see its flaws. I've been reading this manga since 1998 with Viz edition, as I said in my very first post here. BAA is the manga I like the most, but nevertheless I'm still able to recognize the problems it have and I'm telling what I think here just because I'll be very disappointed if my favourite manga won't have a satisfactory ending.

[kamugin]

I got my UJ today! So I did a very quick camraw for you guys, I also scaled it down quite a bit, but you should still be able to recognize the main parts. You can only download it 10 times cause I didn't sign up at RS.
http://rapidshare.com/files/402897765/g ... w.rar.html
Enjoy!

Yay! Sankyuu!
Only 10 times?! "Farinha pouca, meu pirão primeiro!" (Ask Sergio what this means since I'm not able to provide a good translation )

[Sergio Nova]

I got my UJ today! So I did a very quick camraw for you guys, I also scaled it down quite a bit, but you should still be able to recognize the main parts. You can only download it 10 times cause I didn't sign up at RS.
http://rapidshare.com/files/402897765/g ... w.rar.html
Enjoy!

Please, tell me the secret. I also want to subscribe Ultra Jump.