We got the raws and a translation.
Since the last chapter went well with input from others, so here we go again.
Editing is mostly done, so just final text revisions are needed.
[x] Sorry for the wait!
[x] Serialization resumes!!
[bm] To all citizens!!
[bm] Hide and don't move from there no matter what happens!!
[bm] Old man, get me the earmuffs!
[x] What could be happening?
[bm] They're coming.
[fx] wiiin
[bm] The gods of death from the night maze!!*
*TN: No clue.
[x] LOG_037 The Real Hero (first part)
Page 02-3
[fx] wiiin
Page 04
[x] Aircrafts of unknown affiliation approaching! On 10!
[x] Intercept them!!
[fx] gwooon
[fx] ftum
[fx] kaboom
Page 05
[fx] boom
[x] Anti-jaeger Kahr platoon speaking.*
[x] Enemy antiaircraft weapons destroyed.
[x] Transmitting entry point coordinates.
[x] Good job, Kahr platoon.
[x] Entry point lock-on.
[x] Sturm Ramme, storming into!!**
*TN: Too many possibilities for “kaaru”.
**TN: German for "Storm Ram", or Rammer. Written in Japanese as “Assault Mallet”.
Page 06
[fx] vrrrrrr
[fx] boboom
[fx] craaash
Page 07
[fx] stunk
[x] Gwaa!!
[fx] wham
[fx] zwoom
Page 08
[x] The warriors wearing black combat gears who appeared from the Sturm Ramme
[x] gained control of the battlefield in moments.
Page 09
[x] The warriors' attack was way too quick.
[x] Because their ways were unconventional
[x] not a single Fardarrig soldier was able to deal with them.
[x] 45 seconds.
[x] That is how long it took them to wipe out the main forces stationed there.
Page 10
[x] And 6 minutes how long it took for total disarmament.
[x] It was a perfect surprise attack.
Page 11
[eri] Looks like it's over...
[yo] It's safe to rise our heads.
[x] Truly a bolt out of the blue...!! Who in the world are they?!
[eri] Who knows.
[ke] Yo! Thanks for your hard work!!
[ke] By the way, what about that kid who was with me...
[eri] Unye? She's over there!!
[ke] Heyya, so you're in one piece.
Page 12
[ke] Ooh, here she is.
[ke] It's nice she's alive.
[x] When we broke into, half of the soldiers were already dead...
[x] Did you do it, Keun?!
[ke] I was busy with something else.
[ke] I've just arrived.
[ke] Don't tell me that this girl...Unye...?!
Page 13
[x] Keun...
[eri] Yōko!! That person!!
[yo] Yes!!
[ke] Hey there, Gelda.
[ke] I've heard about your feats.
[ke] Even I as a kaufmann I'm proud of 'em.
[ke] Still, don't go too far!!
Page 14
[ge] Keun...I'm disappointed...
[ge] You're still seducing women...
[ke] Hey!!
[ke] Don't say stuff that could lead to misunderstandings, alright?!
[ke] Here!
[fx] grab
[ke] Secret infos about the Zonohedron.
[ke] I'll leave this great feat to you!!
[ke] Also, be careful.
[ke] I've let slip away a bitch called Yakovleva.
[ge] Bitch...as I thought, you were womanizing...
[ke] That's not it!!
Page 15
[eri] Gelda!! Do you remember us?!
[x] The reunion after a long time!!
[x] The two girls of the minefields have grown so much!!
[x] “Gunnm Mars Chronicle” is on the next issue too.
[x] Continues on #12 on sale on 5/25(Tues).
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:05 pm
by bill-b
Thx a lot.
First page : "night maze" could be "Noctis Labyrinthus" on Mars, cf GLO vol 6
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:24 pm
by MrFaber
Noctis Labyrinthus is a canyons structure actually existing of Mars. That's where Kishiro placed the Grunthal base.
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:24 pm
by Silvery
Thank you for continuing to translate the series!! And yay, finally, more künstlers!
Just some small stuff:
"(...) wearing black combat gears" - shouldn't be "gear"?
Isn't it "Far Darrig" or "Fear Dearg" rather than "Fardarrig"?
"And 6 minutes how long it took for total disarmament" - something seems to be missing, perhaps it could be "was how long"?
"Secret infos" - "secret info", I think.
And damn, the "kaaru" bit might be so many things! Karl, Kahl, kar (a geological formation)...
Also, I honestly don't remember if the general consensus is "Gerda" or "Gelda".
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 4:06 am
by 00_unit
I just want to say I look forward to its serialization and to say this as well
KEPT YOU WAITING, HUH?
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 11:07 am
by MrFaber
Also, I honestly don't remember if the general consensus is "Gerda" or "Gelda".
It must be Gerda, Gelda is not a german name.
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 6:48 pm
by kuroro86
Can' t download the page wants me to open a etoro account. Can't find way to download
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 1:13 am
by Silvery
MrFaber wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 11:07 amIt must be Gerda, Gelda is not a german name.
I know, but I was also referring to the past translations as I didn't remember the version that our illustrious scanlation group used before, haha.
I think I've been somewhat poisoned by the recent re-read of the Polish edition of Gunnm, too. They re-relased it with a new translation, you see, and not only does it lack the spark of the old one, but also something weird happened to some names. Fortunately I still own the old edition, but it pisses me off that we'll most likely get only one translation of Last Order, plus I'll have to see that "Ruw" instead of "Lou" for quite a while since we're not done with LO yet.
Also, I honestly don't remember if the general consensus is "Gerda" or "Gelda".
It must be Gerda, Gelda is not a german name.
Well, Yoko is called Gally and there was this debate for some time as to whether it was Garry or Gally. It is quite the endless debate as everyone knows the japanese cannot specify if it's "l" or "r" sound, but in between.
Personally, she has always been called Gelda in the french version, which I found rather smooth sounding compared to the germanish "Gerda" !
Anyway, fictitious characters can be called whatever we want I guess...
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 3:56 pm
by MrFaber
And again Gally is an actual male name, while Garry is not. There was this thing in the very first chatpers that Ido named Gally after his deceased male cat, which pointed to his disturbed attitude to consider Gally a sort of doll of his property. Yes, Ido is quite a f***ed up dude .
Sure locaalizations of Gunnm have made a lot of mess as usual. I remember Anomaly from the ZOT in the italian version was translitterated Ano Maru. Just, what?
But there is a name i'm particulary fond of. Tsumpo/Don Fua is actually Donphyr. You can read the name in the Karete Allies roster during the ZOT, when Donphyr pops up from Toji's body and the system enlist him as a challenger. And that panel wasn't translated. Kishiro wrote it directly in romanji.
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 12:09 am
by Silvery
MrFaber wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:56 pmBut there is a name i'm particulary fond of. Tsumpo/Don Fua is actually Donphyr. You can read the name in the Karete Allies roster during the ZOT, when Donphyr pops up from Toji's body and the system enlist him as a challenger. And that panel wasn't translated. Kishiro wrote it directly in romanji.
Unfortunately, the problem with manga/anime and English names written in rōmaji is that usually you can't be sure whether it was written as intended or if it was just a bit of Engrish.
Like, there is a single panel with Lou wearing a name tag with "Ruw" written on it, and that single panel is the basis of the new Polish translation of her name, even though "Lou" is an actual name and it can be written in katakana the way it was written by Kishiro (ルウ). I suppose the same goes for Donfua.
On the other hand, Kishiro had no problems with the Judas Priest quotes on the soles of Sechs's boots...
I guess it'll always be like Zoro/Zolo from One Piece - "Zoro" sounds right to the majority of OP fans, some translations use "Zolo" because it's been seen in the official materials a couple of times, and the creators/IP owners don't seem to care.
And then there's クワトロ・バジーナ - y'know, the dude on my avatar - who's been called a variety of names over the years, "Vageena/Vagīna" included... Even the packaging of his quite recent scale figure says "Quattro Vageena", even though the official spelling has been "Quattro Bajeena" for quite a while now!
On a side note - didn't we have a theory that "Gally" came from "Galatea"? (While the cat might have been named "Gary" - ah, the joys of the Japanese language!)
Edit: Hahaha, never mind, I was actually the one who suggested this - almost a decade ago!
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 9:42 am
by Sam
Silvery wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 12:09 am
Edit: Hahaha, never mind, I was actually the one who suggested this - almost a decade ago!
Well at least you did not change!
MrFaber wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:56 pm
And again Gally is an actual male name, while Garry is not
I actually happen to know someone named Gary, (as in Gary Cooper) and it seems to be quite a male name. So the argument does really depend on your nationality I guess. But in french we have many first names that can suit either a male or a female, I guess it's the same in other languages.
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 9:55 am
by MrFaber
That's quite a solid point the one about the name being Gary.
Yet i think that when a name figures in the original Japanese panel in latin letters, we can assume that is the intended name. Thake this panel, for istance, hoping the link works:
Presumibly Kishiro himself or one of his staff drew the nametag with the Gally name on it. So, we can assume that Gally was the name in Kishiro intentions.
The same is for Donphyr, who appeared in the original japanese panel the way it is.
Maybe those details pass unnoticed by the translators or maybe they appear later in the publication and it's too late to correct a misstranslicteration but at last we can take then as the correct spelling.
I always wondered why, at least in the tankobon edition, the Japanese publisher, which has deals for foreign publication, it's not like anyone forces them to release abroad, doesn't just add a little glossary in the last page for the correct name spelling or adds a note with the raw material about it.
It's kinda an Imperial level of not giving a f**k
Re: Gunnm - Mars Chronicle 037 (part 1) Script
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 10:01 am
by MrFaber
And i forgot to mention: Gally is a medieval english name. More like a last name then a first name, but sometime it's used as one. The first chapter of Gunnm clearly impies that it's a male name, so it can't really be a short for Galatea. Which is, by the way, the reason why in the american edition they changed the name to Alita, since Gally was clearly a male name and they, it seems, completely missed the point.
I think the reasons for the name was, probably, primarily because Kishiro liked it so, but elso to introduce a character element for Ido which was very important in the first chapters of GUNNM. Ido is borderline insane. He is a serial killer. With a moral code, yes, but still a serial killer. And he sees a pet in Gally, when he rebuilds her, so that's why he gives her the same name of his last pet, just like many per owners do. And he didn't care if it was a male name for a female girl. By the end, she was just a pet.
Finally we get to see Gelda and Yoko/Erica reunited. This got me wanted to re-read quickly the first chapter of GLO when they meet each other, damn that panel, the graphic and art style, I love it. Like the gun, Yukito kept the original spaceship type. Fun fact the book was edited exactly 20 years ago in 2001. It's good to feel old!
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