I admit that i have not PMed much of you related to anything, yet.
For a second, play such game:
"If I knew all the story, the depths, the meanings, the why, what would i do ?"
Is this only story ? Random found thing ? Is this more deeper ? May be or not a meaning ?
After all, what did we enter in with Gunnm ?
Deeper knowledge of me ? Deeper "dreamings" of unmeaningfull things ?
What do actually, Gunnm, being the "old" or the "last order" or "new one" may have given to you ?
I'll answer, may be, but not yet.
Re: What would you do if you known...
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:55 pm
by MrFaber
Sorry mate. I've read your post a few times but... I really can't grasp what the question was
Re: What would you do if you known...
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:10 pm
by Sam
I don't exactly know if this has been bot generated but it's at least a google translation thing!
Anyway, those questions are quite deep if I understand them correctly!
One of the question is pretty intense though:
If I knew all the story, the depths, the meanings, the why, what would i do ?
Well, that is philosophically hard to answer! I guess it's like what happens when you finish a book or series that has been there for quite some time and that you finally know the end. It really depends on how the story would end. Just like a David Lynch movie where there is no real explanations of the ending and you can imagine it the way you want or put whatever meaning there is into it.
As for gunnm, I think for me it's all about to know what the hell happend to her to end there. Where did she come from to finish somehow as a terrorist and burnt in the atmosphere. She wasn't really born and she did not even die. Copied, cloned or something, but still there. There is no beginning and no end of her. It would be too bad not to know that properly. Now the fillers of the story with Erica is stretching a bit too much but it's still enjoyable I think.
As for the what the "old" story gave me, well, I was still young when it came out, and it was pretty special for a teenager to read something about the idea of the existence and what it meant to be human. A lot of self introspection and philosophical thoughts about it. Made me think a lot in advance of the "cogito ergo sum"!
Re: What would you do if you known...
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:24 am
by kamugin
If she implies, like others suggested in the past, that the old game tells all Mars Chronicle, I would say I am not into videogames, despite having played some and, after so many years, if that game still runs in Windows 10, it would be a poor experience. Second: the game and the manga are different media, there's no guarantee that Kishiro will follow exactly the same script, and if he does, the experiences are still different, like an anime based on a manga series. Even if they follow each other closely, still the experience wouldn't be the same. Third: If I had some way of knowing the future, I'd win the lottery... er... knowing the story in advance because somehow I've read all the future manga, I'd torment people here with spoilers all the time... and if I'd know the story sucks, I wouldn't have a reason to read it again.
Re: What would you do if you known...
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:41 pm
by HankMurphy
Caerula wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:36 pm
... all the story ...
I admit that i have not PMed much of you related to anything, yet.
For a second, play such game:
"If I knew all the story, the depths, the meanings, the why, what would i do ?"
Is this only story ? Random found thing ? Is this more deeper ? May be or not a meaning ?
After all, what did we enter in with Gunnm ?
Deeper knowledge of me ? Deeper "dreamings" of unmeaningfull things ?
What do actually, Gunnm, being the "old" or the "last order" or "new one" may have given to you ?
I'll answer, may be, but not yet.
To me, Gunnm is:
An anchor to the years of my youth.
A realization about the vastness of time and how countless stories are woven though it.
A reminder that you have to fight forever to create and hold onto a place in the world.
Re: What would you do if you known...
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:30 am
by kamugin
HankMurphy wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:41 pm
To me, Gunnm is:
An anchor to the years of my youth.
A realization about the vastness of time and how countless stories are woven though it.
A reminder that you have to fight forever to create and hold onto a place in the world.
How deep of you man!
To me it's just another way to escape boredom before death arrives.
Re: What would you do if you known...
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:33 am
by Lanfeust91
For me the first serie when I was reading it around 1995 was when I first became really interested about humans going to Mars (go SpaceX lol). I think Kishiro and others artists were well in advance for their time to dig into space colonies subjects 25 years ago!
Re: What would you do if you known...
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:53 am
by Caerula
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Sorry mate. I've read your post a few times but... I really can't grasp what the question was
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Question is question, matter is matter. Phi win Pwn.
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I don't exactly know if this has been bot generated but it's at least a google translation thing!
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Could remember me a bad notation at king word...
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One of the question is pretty intense though:
Well, that is philosophically hard to answer! I guess it's like what happens when you finish a book or series that has been there for quite some time and that you finally know the end. It really depends on how the story would end. Just like a David Lynch movie where there is no real explanations of the ending and you can imagine it the way you want or put whatever meaning there is into it.
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D.Lynch ? This is about the drive or where the car ends ?
But there i was more onto a "knowing steps of the way"; would you catch a difference ?
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As for gunnm, I think for me it's all about to know what the hell happend to her to end there. Where did she come from to finish somehow as a terrorist and burnt in the atmosphere. She wasn't really born and she did not even die. Copied, cloned or something, but still there. There is no beginning and no end of her. It would be too bad not to know that properly. Now the fillers of the story with Erica is stretching a bit too much but it's still enjoyable I think.
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Think of humans guy, you do prefer to be meat ending as in a food-can then: "that is, done, that is done so" ?
Yet i was more speaking concerning "hrmm" me, so to bring about it.
Think about a past life may be, Asia Peoples, a lot of them do not have exact same considerations about "meat in cans"... ?
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As for the what the "old" story gave me, well, I was still young when it came out, and it was pretty special for a teenager to read something about the idea of the existence and what it meant to be human. A lot of self introspection and philosophical thoughts about it. Made me think a lot in advance of the "cogito ergo sum"!
And this was in about 1999 you brought it to school to show it ?
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Existence ? What is ? You move... As time, whatever, this is destiny... Existence this is a moment, "long moment", "eternal moment" ?
Eternal waiting for it's end into mastery ?
But i have my "view" as a kind of "undead" so to say...
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If she implies, like others suggested in the past, that the old game tells all Mars Chronicle, I would say I am not into ...
SO WHAT ?! You even found wine in my cup of tea ?! Such impressive sight ! I did not even got to this yet ... precisely ... at the moment ... but now ... ?
A reminder that you have to fight forever to create and hold onto a place in the world.
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I bring a story there, got it in a book but as this is internet i do not bring the "source name publicly" , sorry.
"This is a noble person trying to know about life.
He is told to get to the butcher and looks near by.
The Butcher is there, doing workings...
-It was told to me you could teach me a bit
The Butcher is silent ... doing... for a moment ...
The knife get there, there, cutting in betweens and tenders.
-Get it, a young butcher use a knife every year, a low butcher a knife every five, a middle butcher a knife every ten, me i have the same knife since more than thirty years.
-Ho you learnt me, to know about life is to make it lasting."
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I remember in "Last Order", very first chapter:
"It's already finished before having even started."
Wishing you well, time is long, hope thou dosn't get onto a bad stepping with me doings; Hank.
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To me it's just another way to escape boredom before death arrives.
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Shrinks could do well, they have cheap candies and eventual sheep squares to escape boredom.
For me the first serie when I was reading it around 1995 [...] about humans going to Mars [...]. I think Kishiro and others artists were well in advance [...] 25 years ago!
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P.K.Dick did write about Mars colonies in the 50's ...
Hahaha
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Quite some interestting stories, you would like to find "radio and tapes into a Mars case" with "an" every now and then coming to visit.
And quoting an unclear poster:
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I'll answer, may be, but not yet.
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I said i shall, now i could.
Lucky me, one year of more fun into free parties and wackings.
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"If I knew all the story, the depths, the meanings, the why, what would i do ?"
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Trying to master the why, a bit as "Desty Nova", but onto my "style".
What else ? Waiting while story get in ?
I prefer to do rather than to wait and simply be "absent from action" into Reality.
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Is this only story ? Random found thing ? Is this more deeper ? May be or not a meaning ?
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A darn set of equations and measures to solve; i prefer to not say much... I leaves as a cloud mystery, somehow.
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After all, what did we enter in with Gunnm ?
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I was there even before!
For me this is "as" just another apparition; but i do appreciate this one...
Thanks thee "料理 Kyshiro San", hihi
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Deeper knowledge of me ? Deeper "dreamings" of unmeaningfull things ?
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More confirmations and studies.
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What do actually, Gunnm, being the "old" or the "last order" or "new one" may have given to you ?
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More confirmations and studies while doing my "secret agent working" ?