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Sword of Damocles

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:25 pm
by the_maxx
For those who have read the latest scan translations. What do you think Trnidad refered as The sword of damocles?? I don't mean the legend itself, but what could that be named like that in alita' s timeline?
I re-read all the last order volumes but cant find anything that would make me guess what it can be.

The most far fetched theory I could guess it that this weapon is one of the former panzer kunst, like hilda or erika. Or perhaps one of the former Tiphares geniuses?
And what will supernova do thit the head of Tzykrow? on mars?

I didnt get this well, the semifinal will take place on the Onion Frame, and the Finals in Mars, is that right?????

Re: Sword of Damocles

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:09 pm
by tcd
the_maxx wrote: And what will supernova do thit the head of Tzykrow? on mars?
I'm not going to re-read the first series of Alita, but if my memory isn't wrong, I suspect he's gonna alter tzykrow in the same way as he did with Makaku, Zapan (by giving him Alita's old berzerker body, I think), Den and Alita.

The fact that Nova is going to mars might indicate that he's probably investigating on Alita's past life, trying to find her weak spots. Or maybe looking to hire some of Tzykrow's former comrades (hopefully more badass and less spineless than this ugh-thing).

Remember, he isn't really much into direct physical violence but enjoys a lot messing with other's heads, using as an excuse his own theories on karma.

As for the location of finals, I don't think that they would be held in Mars.

In one of the precedent GLO volumes, the political situation on Mars has been described as pretty conflictual, with different factions vying for power and warring each other, with Ladder, Jove and Venus financing in secret one or another of these factions.

It would be like holding next Olympics within Beirut or the Gaza Strip. :?

So I suppose that ZOTT would continue in the same location as before or will be held in another Mbadi-controlled location (maybe placed in another of the other Lagrangian points in the Earth-Moon system.)

One thing that is sure is that Alita has had always in mind that her next objective, after winning the ZOTT (and all that follows: giving freedom to Zalem and Scrapyard, giving a body to Lou's brain..), is to go back to Mars to recover fully all her memories.

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:54 am
by Akumeno
finally after 19 volumes :D

Re: Sword of Damocles

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:57 pm
by hyatt
the_maxx wrote:For those who have read the latest scan translations. What do you think Trnidad refered as The sword of damocles?? I don't mean the legend itself, but what could that be named like that in alita' s timeline?
I re-read all the last order volumes but cant find anything that would make me guess what it can be.

The most far fetched theory I could guess it that this weapon is one of the former panzer kunst, like hilda or erika. Or perhaps one of the former Tiphares geniuses?
And what will supernova do thit the head of Tzykrow? on mars?

I didnt get this well, the semifinal will take place on the Onion Frame, and the Finals in Mars, is that right?????
Well, if I had to venture a guess, I would say that the Sword of Damocles refers to the superstructure surrounding the earth. Mbadi most likely intends to drop the Onion Dome and its components onto the earth thereby removing the dangerous elements that have gathered that year. The Sword of Damocles reference would be appropriate because the combatants are unaware of the precarious situation which they occupy in the space station.

Sword Of Damocles

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:31 pm
by Flan Man
Hi everybody, just joined and a huge BAA fan.
Was browsing Wikipedia when I ran across a summery of the movie 'Escape From L.A.'

" "Sword of Damocles" super weapon — a series of high-tech satellites capable of destroying electronics anywhere on the planet using a focused electromagnetic pulse."

May be unrelated but seeing as how most, if not all combatants are cyborgs and whatnot it could prove disastrous for our heroes, or as others have been saying destroy everything and everyone in the tournament and super structure.

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:40 pm
by the_maxx
hyatt may have a point; perhaps what Mbadi wants is to get rid of Tiphares and the Scrapyard in one move. He may drop the space tower slightly just to make Tiphares crash on the surface, Killing everything down there, that may include the winners of the Zott.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:31 am
by hepar
the_maxx wrote:hyatt may have a point; perhaps what Mbadi wants is to get rid of Tiphares and the Scrapyard in one move. He may drop the space tower slightly just to make Tiphares crash on the surface, Killing everything down there, that may include the winners of the Zott.
And then Ketheres will fly to outer space...
"Right to the devil's grandmom" as we say...

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:32 pm
by Raptoos
" "Sword of Damocles" super weapon — a series of high-tech satellites capable of destroying electronics anywhere on the planet using a focused electromagnetic pulse."
It was Abaddon, not Sword of Damocles ;)

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:36 pm
by CharyOdd
i think that "Sword of Democless" will be a change of ruling system..

Now they (Ledder) are restricted by this ZOT tournament, and all other laws that they made.

"Sword .." may change some laws (maybe they will "un-ban" children and "ban" immortality) and will allow to do whatever Ledder wishes..

I think it also can mean a disbanding Ledder and making each planet very individual.. so it will lead to war and chaos but it may help to rid of "dengerus" elements like Alita and Zekka.

Other thing is about nano-machines. With Dr. Warez incident there was ban held on advenced nano-technology weapons.

And other thing i thought is shuting down Melchizedek (and his future making ability) but this would be insane 8)

I like the idea of resurecting Tsai powers to "bad-ass" status :D :D
He would be whacked by Cerulla and reduced to dust. ;) Also maybe Nova simply want to resurect panzerkunst with aid of Alitas data and Tsai's fighting skillss :D

Ehh i hope nothing of this come true :shock: to big spoiler :)

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:06 pm
by hepar
With all his knowledge Nova can build an army of Tzykrows. Furthermore, I think he will improve his body (being inspired by Alita's new body) allowing Tsai to use the same amount of power as she.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:48 am
by kenshin
supernova can't replicate alitas new body, she the wormhole power of the jupiter station, basicly the most advanced next generation fighter from jupiter. Nova doesnt have the resources to replicate that.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:33 pm
by moooV
Wormhole from Jupiter... =))) then, Alita has became Russian =)))

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:08 pm
by hepar
Russian worm

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:40 am
by Dream
Int 29Ah wrote:Wormhole from Jupiter... =))) then, Alita has became Russian =)))
Now I'm imagining her talking with a russian accent.
I don't know if I should laugh, cry, or fap.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:00 pm
by crazyankan
If Alita starts talking russian, she could need some "good" quotes from Ivan Drago from Rocky IV.
Drago: To the end.
Drago: You will lose.
Drago: If he dies, he dies.
Drago: I must break you.
Drago: I defeat all man. Soon I defeat real champion.
<3 Dolph Lundgren =)

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:10 pm
by hepar
Why not from Schwarzenegger from Red Heat?

— Kakie vashi dokazatel'stva? ("~Vhat ar your evidenz?")
— Nine o'clock, I must feed my parrot.


PS: BTW, I always wanted to ask, is russian accent sounds pretty stupid or funny, or it's not so big deal compared with jap. and indian accents?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:38 pm
by Dream
Never heard a "real" russian guy, so I don't really know. Can't be worse than french for sure. :lol:

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:16 pm
by hepar
Well. If you want to imitate light accent try to do this:
1) V,W → W (since there's no difference between them in russian we say what sounds opposite from ours)
2) Th → sometimes S,Z,T (thing → sing, that → zet, thousand → tousand)
3) R → smth similar to "pirate R" ("Ahrrh~ Wherhe is my bottle of Rhome?")
4) Sh → russian Sh (hardned) with i, u, o; russian Shch (it's one letter) wit a, e, oo, ee.
5) All vowels are shorter 1.5 times.
6) No shua-vowels.
7) No pace in frase.
8) Time mistakes, word missing sometimes.
9) No articles when you need them. Prefere "the"
10) words misuse (really → wery, etc)
11) mispronounciation of some rare word etc.

If you want to imitate hard accent do this:
1) V,W → V
2) Th → everytime S,Z,T
3) R → russian hard R ("Tovarishch") everywhere.
4) Sh → russian Sh (hardned).
5) All vowels are shorter 2.5 times.
6) No shua-vowels.
7) No pace in frase.
8) Time mistakes, words missing everytime.
9) No articles.
10) words misuse, direct pronounciation (vowels [vae:ls] → [vavels])
11) Short frases. Small number of wods using:
Okej, Yes, No, Very much, Indeed, Vodka, Moneys, Shit (piece of paper).

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:29 pm
by moooV
Never heard a "real" russian guy, so I don't really know. Can't be worse than french for sure.
2 Dream: Watch this: http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=rIDoJpz-aYk
It's our (Russian) ex-president speaking in english =)))
http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=QrtxJ5rnQ ... re=related
And example of him in Russian =)))

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:32 pm
by hepar
Well, he learned English for only 5-7 years in his 50th. But ROFL

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:17 pm
by Dream
Damn, his voice his so different from what I imagined. I pictured him with a slower, graver voice for some reason.
Well.
His accent in english is not that bad, and it's not so different from what french do. I had no real problems understanding him, lol.

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:01 pm
by O.P.
Dream wrote:Damn, his voice his so different from what I imagined. I pictured him with a slower, graver voice for some reason.
Like a Russian bad guy from a James Bond movie? :wink:

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:32 pm
by Dream
O.P. wrote:
Dream wrote:Damn, his voice his so different from what I imagined. I pictured him with a slower, graver voice for some reason.
Like a Russian bad guy from a James Bond movie? :wink:
Yeah, kinda. Sorry if that offends some russian people there. :oops: