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Just to speculate a bit: How do you think things would've turned out without any Space Angel- action?

Without Alita defeating Toji's Team on Leviathan, he and Zekka would have never teamed up, Toji & Co. most likely would've been killed by Anomaly. A fight Anomaly vs. Venus would be a great thing .
I also would like to know the outcome of a "classic" ZOTT, Jovians vs. Venusians. Wouldn't have the Jupiter Mixer torn away all of the organic creatures, or if not, the polymer would've end their live, or if not, Tunguska would beam the very shit out of them? So Gargantula-Ygrec this, Gargantula-Ygrec that, I can't see any chance of winning for the Venusians (although we haven't seen the full power of him, yet).

What do you say to that? Which fights do you imagine?

Oh, the possibilities...
Seeing all their former opponents, I'd say the Space Nursery would have go to the Jupitarian team, and lost. They'd lost a lot of people against the circus, but Vilma could probably handle the hypnosis thing, but against the Jupitarian "team", I just CAN'T see them winning. Even with the big laser sword thingy.

Other way, Toji first team is WEAK, so no way he'd win against Anomaly.

Anomaly vs Venus, now, is another thing. We haven't seen Venus at full power, but I guess most of the organic tricks wouldn't have worked against Anomaly nanoetch anatomy. Probably a win for him.

Final is Anomaly Vs Jupiter.

Anomaly can regenerate all attacks, and probably force them to go to the Tunguska form. Now it totally depends on luck. If Anomaly gets hit by a full force wormhole powered ray, he's totally desintegrated and can't regenerate. But if he doesn't, well, he can win. I think.

Would STILL be pretty interesting in fact.

i think that also SNS would win to semi-finals.. but i think they would try to escape somehow.. (i think that wild-Guns would beat out shit of them, but only Cerulla would avoid bullets--> when Cerrula fights they escape to Mars so it would be Wild Guns vs Jupiter and Jupiter Wins by using only Urbanaut)
NOW... if Cerulla wouldnt have to fight.. (Getz and Koen)..
i think that Jupiter would have hard time.. but still we didnt seen 3rd and 4th member of Warmen 609.. And they could wipe as out of SNS so ... still win to Jupiter..


Yea.. Toji would be raped by Anomaly, and Anomaly vs Venusians.. i dont think Venus would loose.. Venus could use some strange shit and who knows..

ANYWAY.. i think that Tunguska would wipe out anythink that Venus would have.. Simply it would be not possible to avoid smth like Jupiter Beam..

Or maybe Igrek would do smething snaky, but still he would loose..

The Scavenger would have won, their Devastator looek mighty!

First off the Space Nursery Team.
They would had to fight the Starship Cult, The railgun guy and the Spear guy and his monkey would have beaten the shit out of the Illusionist. Then in the worst case, the Nurse would had to fight with the Clown, she would greatly suffer from the confrontation but yet would have killed him for the sake of the children she is currently protecting. Then the Illusionist God would have either eliminated or killed her. And then Vilma come as the last hope for the team and beat the Illusionist mercilessly telling him how she is able to see the truth he is trying to manipulate.

Then they would have beaten the gunmen team probably losing someone of their team in the process or letting Vilma handle the whole fight.

And then Warman would have annihilated them but I doubt Vilma would be stupid enough to even think about confronting the Jupiter Team (as she said to the Japanese nurse during the fight against the Space Angels).

The Karate Allies:
Anomaly would have killed Toji and his team, end of story (Zekka would not be here since Trinidad would not have called him).

Jupiter Team vs. Anomaly:
I don't see Anomaly winning this fight. In term of sheer power output, Warman win, in term of survivability Anomaly is ahead but the thing is that if it had been destroyed by a strike which contained only a small part of Zekka's energy, just imagine what the wormhole ray would have done to it... scary...
So imo the Jupiter Team win this fight.

Jupiter Team vs. Venus Team:
The whole Onion frame explode, nothing can handle a fight between those freaking things lol. I still have a feeling that the Venus Team.

To be honest, I'm pretty sure Jupiter whould have anihilated the venus team. The mixer itself would probably destroy most ot them. And when I see what Venus weapons are, I seriously doubt they would have been even able to get to the third stage of the thing.

Tunguska is effectively invulnerable. The only reason Space Angels managed to destroy it was because of gally's super-nanomachines, and I doubt Venus have anything but brute force.

zhek wrote:Tunguska is effectively invulnerable. The only reason Space Angels managed to destroy it was because of gally's super-nanomachines, and I doubt Venus have anything but brute force.

just because sechs et all got pwnt and tunguska has the most powerful power generator in the universe plus very strong defense does not mean venus does not stand a chance, afterall, if these are the kinds of machines jupiter rolls out every yr, how is it that venus won the last zot? I wouldn't count the venusians out, it would probably be a coin flip difference....yes the animals that venusian employed will probably get pwnt but the different bological uses of Zecha's cells just might pwn tunguska, afterall, zecha wasn't too impressed by tunguska when the big cat was first revealed or when tunguska went berserk and started to shoot everything...

Well now this thread has potential... Regarding the whole Tunguska kicking venusian ass thing , i tend to disagree , not just because we haven't seen everything Homme du fue is capable off but simply because of a short history lesson . Do you remember who created the berserker cells , the venusians did and that was 200 years ago , they've come a long way since then & if berserker cells took out the second more powerful form of 609 you can just figure out what they still have in their arsenal.
Apart from all that i just think that Pissaro's freak show looks cooler than 609 , i just love bio-punk more than anything else , you know.
Now to the serious part , if the space angels wouldn't enter the z.o.t.t. who would replace them , but don't just make up characters , let's have the impossible & imagine what a team made up of Makaku , Den , Zapan with his berserker body & Sachumodo (Roscoe's robot from Tiphares) would be like in the z.o.t.t. (DON'T try to rewrite the story to imagine how they'd end up there just go with the speculative mindless violence) .
I'll hear your thoughts first ... just to see what you guys think.