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Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:10 am
by Isidorios
Was thinking about the three brain-chips housed in M'badi's skull......
All three of them are from genetically engineered supergeniuses from Tiphares.
We know the identity of the first one, Dr Varez the evil nanomachine genius. I'd guess that one of the others belongs to the Tipharean scientist that Ping Wu mentions in Vol.3, who invented the Brain Incubator and Argo Navis.

Have I missed mention of anyone who would possibly be the third? Could it be the brain behind Unanimous? That's the only other piece of LADDER supertech I can think of, though we haven't really seen what the Sword of Damocles is capable of....

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:59 am
by CharyOdd
Sword of Democles is only a bigger, better, stronger version of Zalems Abbadon Satelite. So skalar wave weapon technology existed already.
M'badi says much about this in 3rd vol. If he is 222 years old, G.E.N.E project was started 154 years ago, and Warez who was second scientist from Zalem and first to be merged with M'badi, than 1st scientist from Zalem was guy who invented Methuzaleh technology (i think that name refers to scientist who invented prolonging life).
After that Ping in 3rd vol. said about Unanimous. Its "only" 100 years old. I think, that when Warez was assimilated by M'badi, came scientist from Zalem who invented this system and linked it with Melchizedek.

So we have 3: Methuzaleh (although its was stolen by Ping Wu form Venus so im not sure), Warez and Unanimous.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:46 pm
by ederly
In fact, Methuzaleh refers to a personnage in hebreu bible who lived a very long time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methuselah

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:12 pm
by HumanRage
didn't saw that thread.

yeah ,mathusalyze refer to the process of not aging anymore, it's the name of the technology. it was stolen and broadcasted by Ping

Trinindad has 3 brain chips : His own, Dr Warez's , and a third one we yet don't know.

he never implanted himself the nova chip, as stated by SuperNova which uses both at same time.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:37 pm
by moooV
HumanRage wrote: Trinindad has 3 brain chips : His own, Dr Warez's , and a third one we yet don't know.
As far as I remember, he has a brain of himself and 3 chips, one of which is Warez, other are unknown.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:55 pm
by HumanRage
Int 29Ah wrote:
HumanRage wrote: Trinindad has 3 brain chips : His own, Dr Warez's , and a third one we yet don't know.
As far as I remember, he has a brain of himself and 3 chips, one of which is Warez, other are unknown.
then why warez offer him to be the first superhuman ?

we can see trinidad's skull in vol2 i think, it's basically the same as ido or nova or GIB chief, just with 2 others. and he is called Trinidad because of 3 chips and hell guys, where did you get that idea in the first place ?

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:08 pm
by moooV
No, it isn't the same. It's a normal human skull, but with additional chips.

It's the v3, the end of the first chapter. Look at it - he has a brain AND three chips below it.

I'm so sure about it that I don't even need to open the manga to verify!

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:57 am
by HumanRage
i'm also sure without verifying that the GR project chief has the same "brain curves" pattern in the inner side of his skull, and i'm quite sure that's what you mistaken for a brain, but think about it, where would a brain be, if you already have 3 chips and their sockets in the cavity ? :D

i won't download RA scans or check on cd (volumes are still at my parent's place for now), because this whole idea is terribly funny, i want to see how far you can stretch this theory :D

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:26 am
by Sergio Nova
Int 29Ah wrote:
HumanRage wrote: As far as I remember, he has a brain of himself and 3 chips, one of which is Warez, other are unknown.
I agree entirely with that interpretation.
Actually, he should be Quadra, instead of Trinidad, as he has a total of four brains. If he had included Nova's, he would, obviously, become Penta.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:50 am
by Isidorios
The Tipharean "Guinea Pigs" are the ones with their brains replaced by chips, the Trinidad and everyone else in the outer city have Unanimous installed into their organic brains.
M'badi is clearly shown in a couple of panels as having a full organic brain into which 3 brain chips have been installed. And he also distinctly mentions that the chips of all three "Tipharean geniuses" are inside him.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:09 pm
by vacendek
@Isidorious: Trinidad has no Unanimous system installed. That's why he is calling the shots and not the leader-chairman.
As far as I know he is the only exception though.

Now going to read LO to check how many chips there are.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:23 pm
by moooV
Now going to read LO to check how many chips there are.
Are you kidding? Cmon, really? :shock:

That's as obvious as the quantity of fingers on your hand! He has a brain and, below it - a PCB with THREE chips and interconnections between them. That's nothing even to speak about, it's an unquestionable truth!

The only question is - who are the other two geniuses.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:39 pm
by vacendek
Not sure if there are three or four chips in addition to his brain.
#4 would definitely be Nova.
The names of the first three are not mentioned.
Quiet sure one is Dr. Warez the nanotech guy.
One of the others is related to immortality.

Wasn't the supercomputer Melzisomthing in charge of Tiphares?
If so wouldn't Trinidad be sort of constructed by said computer?!
But Trinidad is somehow manipulating the computer to predict or create the future he wants.
Confusing ...

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:53 pm
by HumanRage
i just looked, damn right.

frak, another mystery

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:17 am
by Megan_Gale
....another 2-4 volumes worth of potential sidestory digression :wink:

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:54 pm
by Sergio Nova
Megan_Gale wrote:....another 2-4 volumes worth of potential sidestory digression :wink:
Let me see. Kishiro would tell us a story of a 2-dollar prostitute somewhere in Africa.
I insist that such a prostitute would be of the worst kind. After destroying and corrupting many innocent girls in order to make money and have power, she would educate her son to be a superman.

No! This is not a joke. Aga Mbadi is exactly a great son of a bitch, and that would be an interesting origin.
The idea of picturing her as such a disqualified character is simple: someone who put such a scoundrel on the planet HAS to be hors concours.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:18 pm
by MrFaber
[quote]Kishiro would tell us a story of a 2-dollar prostitute somewhere in Africa. [/quote]

Mbadi should be Indian, tho. I think there was an indian scientist too in the developement of Merlin, maybe related.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:24 am
by Sergio Nova
MrFaber wrote: Mbadi should be Indian, tho. I think there was an indian scientist too in the developement of Merlin, maybe related.
The Indian scientist is Rada, but I cannot see any link.

Aga Mbadi is a Kenyan name. There is even a Kenyan politician (probably his ancestor) named Mbadi John Ng’ongo.
Also, his biotype is Negroid, not Indian.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:02 am
by pedrokdc
Sergio wrote:
Int 29Ah wrote:
HumanRage wrote: As far as I remember, he has a brain of himself and 3 chips, one of which is Warez, other are unknown.
I agree entirely with that interpretation.
Actually, he should be Quadra, instead of Trinidad, as he has a total of four brains. If he had included Nova's, he would, obviously, become Penta.
Cara, vou ser banido por isso mas: Só o Brasil é Penta

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:04 am
by Sergio Nova
pedrokdc wrote: Cara, vou ser banido por isso mas: Só o Brasil é Penta
Na verdade, você já está atrasado.
É só uma questão de tempo, pois o Brasil já é hexa.

P.S. Pelo menos o filho duma puta do Mbadi não é brasileiro.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:08 pm
by Apalala
@vacendek: MBadi actually has an Unanimous system installed, but he can pass over it. Page 82 volume 3.

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:36 pm
by kamugin
moooV wrote:As far as I remember, he has a brain of himself and 3 chips, one of which is Warez, other are unknown.
I think the third one may be Lou's chip =)

M'badi preservers his human brain, unlike the Tiphareans, so the third chip is a backup of his original brain or it is from an yet to be unveiled super scientist... or Lou! =)

He should get some Intel core i7 processors instead of the chips from lunatics like Nova and Warez =)

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:53 pm
by moooV
kamugin wrote:He should get some Intel core i7 processors instead of the chips from lunatics like Nova and Warez =)
Laughed heavily. They're weak - the one in my dedicated computer is calculating the hair for a week already! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:32 pm
by kamugin
moooV wrote:Laughed heavily. They're weak - the one in my dedicated computer is calculating the hair for a week already! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
The hair of your Alita model? You should hurry putting that in place, a baldy Alita is a frightening sight =)

Re: Trinidad Speculation

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:33 am
by ulysses
Sergio wrote: Aga Mbadi is a Kenyan name. There is even a Kenyan politician (probably his ancestor) named Mbadi John Ng’ongo.
That's interesting, thanks for the info.
Sergio wrote:Also, his biotype is Negroid, not Indian.
If that is true, then he has used plastic surgery extensively. I've never seen such a thin and rectilinear nose, not even on a greek statue.