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User rankings

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:54 pm
by AR-99
I just noticed that I am now at the Deckman level. :P However some of the veterans here have other ranks like Kunster, Barjack soldier, and GIB. Is there a breakdown as to what the threshold is (looks like post count) to achieve these ranks?

Re: User rankings

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:01 pm
by moooV

Re: User rankings

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:10 pm
by AR-99
Thanks!

I realized after I posted that this thread probably belongs in the Users corner section, not here.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:19 pm
by crazyankan
Maybe I should change the "ranks".
Any plans for new ranks
50 Deckman (I will keep that one :P )
100 ?
200 ?
300 ?
...etc :)

Re: User rankings

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:59 pm
by vacendek
I like the Deckman = noob level/idea very much, but i don't like the GIB and Tipharean levels. IMHO they should all be Künstler-levels/hierarchies like: Anfanger (Beginner) (German: Anfänger)
Tzereter (Enthusiast) (lol Tezzeret the Seeker (MTG reference))
Lerhling (Apprentice) (German: Lehrling)
Gezere (War Artisan)
Kreiger (Warrior) (German: Krieger)
Hoher Krieger (High Warrior)
Meister (Master)
Adept (Licensed Master)
Altermeist (Elder) (German: Altmeister)

(Didn't find the levels in the Alita wiki; reference is nationmaster. Maybe i will add them to the wiki if we can agree on a name for the levels)

Which level is Altia at the moment? Caerula attested her to be at Hoher Krieger level before she go her Jupiter-upgrades.
BTW I found an error in [Manga] Battle Angel Alita - Last Order (Volume 06) [Rippersanime.com] (58.897.377) p22 middle panel. Reads "Köher Krieger" should be "Höher Krieger" or in better (not funny sounding umlaut) German "Hoher Krieger", which would be the correct case.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:15 pm
by moooV
vacendek wrote:I like the Deckman = noob level/idea very much, but i don't like the GIB and Tipharean levels. IMHO they should all be Künstler-levels/hierarchies like: Anfanger (Beginner) (German: Anfänger)
Tzereter (Enthusiast) (lol Tezzeret the Seeker (MTG reference))
Lerhling (Apprentice) (German: Lehrling)
Gezere (War Artisan)
Kreiger (Warrior) (German: Krieger)
Hoher Krieger (High Warrior)
Meister (Master)
Adept (Licensed Master)
Altermeist (Elder) (German: Altmeister)

(Didn't find the levels in the Alita wiki; reference is nationmaster. Maybe i will add them to the wiki if we can agree on a name for the levels)

Which level is Altia at the moment? Caerula attested her to be at Hoher Krieger level before she go her Jupiter-upgrades.
BTW I found an error in [Manga] Battle Angel Alita - Last Order (Volume 06) [Rippersanime.com] (58.897.377) p22 middle panel. Reads "Köher Krieger" should be "Höher Krieger" or in better (not funny sounding umlaut) German "Hoher Krieger", which would be the correct case.

YES! YES!!!
I LOVE IT!!!


The current sytem is idiotic - I kept saying it in the previous topic and I'm saying it again.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:29 pm
by AR-99
Tzykrow rated Alita at the Meister level because of her use of Einsatzrhythmen, then quickly took it back out of pride.

The Kunstler system works well for multiple levels because there are several ranks. However I'm in favor of mixing it up a little bit to include some references to the original manga, only because people are different levels in the story and won't run into the Kunstler rankings until they get into the midway point of Last Order. It's probably not possible or if so, a pain to include a parallel ranking system that people could choose to follow, say the Kunstler route or another route.

Not sure how much further up you can go beyond Meister.

Other random rank ideas:

-Hunter-warrior
-Rail mercenary
-Motorball player
-Guignol
-Space karate master
-LADDER
-ZOTT contestant
-TUNED
-Factory bounty
-Stellar Nursery Society graduate
-Type-V mutant/Cognate
-Geo Catastrophe survivor
-ORDER
-New ORDER

Re: User rankings

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:54 pm
by moooV
No. You don't get the idea!

The rankings you suggest have the same fault as the current ones - THEY ARE OF THE DIFFERENT CLASSES, uncomparable, heterogeneous. They break the subordination (I just don't know how to name it correctly :lol: ).

What's the relation between the motorball player and ladder? Why is geo catastrophe survivor higher than tuned? This list is completely random and illogical!

But the rankings vacendek has offered are HOMOGENEOUS, they are of the same class! That are the only logical rankings ever suggested!

Re: User rankings

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:16 pm
by Sergio Nova
vacendek wrote:Didn't find the levels in the Alita wiki; reference is nationmaster. Maybe i will add them to the wiki if we can agree on a name for the levels
Check the entry Panzer Kunst ranks. Your remark is also there.
[btw, what is Nationmaster?]

Re: User rankings

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:40 pm
by AR-99
I thought of netman and juvenile infantry while I was out walking at lunch today.
moooV wrote:The rankings you suggest have the same fault as the current ones - THEY ARE OF THE DIFFERENT CLASSES, uncomparable, heterogeneous. They break the subordination (I just don't know how to name it correctly :lol: ).

What's the relation between the motorball player and ladder? Why is geo catastrophe survivor higher than tuned? This list is completely random and illogical!

But the rankings vacendek has offered are HOMOGENEOUS, they are of the same class! That are the only logical rankings ever suggested!
There is no relation nor was there any specific hierarchy suggested, that was just stream of consciousness. And there is no relation at all between most of the suggestions or the current ranks, other than that they are found in the same BAA/LO universe.

And yes, I agree that for a multi-level hierarchy that the Kunstler ranks do work the best because there are no other comparable rankings. Still, for some reason I am in favor of mixing things up that have no relation to each other. If they are better or worse it is wholly up to each person.

I noticed that this board doesn't allow users to give themselves random titles like I've seen elsewhere, that is a different idea, but would work here too.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:52 am
by Abaddon
It would be nice to have a rank for the newcomers also, I mean people with 1 to 49 posts.


I like the idea of vacendek too by the way.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:17 am
by moooV
I think, I should suggest a good solid level numbers for vacendek's model, based on current users post statistics:

25 Anfanger (Beginner) (German: Anfänger)
50 Tzereter (Enthusiast) (lol Tezzeret the Seeker (MTG reference))
75 Lerhling (Apprentice) (German: Lehrling)
100 Gezere (War Artisan)
250 Kreiger (Warrior) (German: Krieger)
500 Hoher Krieger (High Warrior)
750 Meister (Master)
1000 Adept (Licensed Master)
2500 Altermeist (Elder) (German: Altmeister)

Re: User rankings

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:04 pm
by ^Ripper
How about post count 1-25 we give out the simple alita universe names like dekman etc

Then when people go "pro" with more then 25 posts, the Kunstler ranks will apply.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:15 pm
by moooV
I think, this will be too confusing. People with less than 10 posts aren't active anyway.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:24 pm
by AR-99
At 1-25 posts, jumping up in ranks every few posts would degrade the values of the ranks and doesn't seem worth the effort to implement.

Can custom titles be enabled? Crazyankan has the Crazy Editor! title for example. Or is that limited to mods and admins?

Re: User rankings

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:31 pm
by ^Ripper
Not giving out ranks every time a person posts.
More like:
1 post (village idiot, or newbie, whatever)
2-10 - dekman
10-25 - super dekman
(replace with whatever we can come up with)

Nothing too fancy.
Just to give the low posters some kind of title.
Not everyone has a 1600+ post count...(glaring at our forum junky Sergio)

Re: User rankings

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:05 am
by vacendek
:mrgreen: wasn't expecting so much and positive response and/or any forum changes - thanks to all supporters of the proposed Künstlergradsystem!
vacendek wrote:... i don't like the GIB and Tipharean levels ...
I wrote that mostly because I will need a lot more post for the next levels (I think about double the amount I got.)
and I don't like the whiny Tiphareans, which ... major spoiler ... Hope that never happens to me!
Sergio Nova wrote:Check the entry Panzer Kunst ranks. Your remark is also there.
I checked and verified it.
Suggestions:
-Anfängerin (Gender-Sensitive)
-Tzereter
-Lehrling
-Gesellin
-Kriegerin
-Hohe Kriegerin (femal)/Hoher Krieger (male)
-MeisterIn
-Adeptin
-Altmeisterin

The ranksystem appears to be inspired by the german titles in journeyman- and/or Freemasonry-guilds.
I have no clue what "Tzereter" stands for/means.
"Hoh-e" because "hoch" (comparative "höher", superlative "am höchsten") is used as an attribute and this rank is above, but no comparative to "Krieger". (Sorry, I would have made the changes myself, but the wiki-regmail takes its time.)

"btw, what is Nationmaster?"
I visited Panzer+Kunst and there i found the "Nationmaster"-link (called so cause of nolivelinksrule)
h**p://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Panzer-Kunst
but no link to the related Panzer+Kunst+ranks entry, which imho is redundant and should be either added to the above wiki-page as section or be linked to.
^Ripper wrote:village idiot
I would love "meatsack" or something similar, suggesting a weak/soft target for the evil cyborgs and cyberdocs/butchers.

btw: I'm interested to know, how i can mod my own phpBB to add the described feature, which allows custom titles for everyone and keep in mind I'm a php(BB)-noob.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:59 am
by crazyankan
AR-99 wrote: Can custom titles be enabled? Crazyankan has the Crazy Editor! title for example. Or is that limited to mods and admins?
^Ripper gave me title long time ago.
Custom titles are limited for me, ^Ripper and translators.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:17 am
by ^Ripper
vacendek, first you need the latest phpbb 3.x

Login your admin control panel
Go to "users and groups" on the top tab
On the left under "users" click "manage ranks"

Create a rank here for when a certain post count is reached or a standalone rank to be given to special people.

Re: User rankings

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:51 am
by AR-99
crazyankan wrote: ^Ripper gave me title long time ago.
Custom titles are limited for me, ^Ripper and translators.
I have no problem then with limiting titles to the chosen few, it is justly deserved!