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Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:41 pm
by FluffyMcMittens
Ok, here's the last chapter of this story arc.
Have fun reading!

Next chapter will be out on 12/25 so it will be a little while.

https://www16.zippyshare.com/v/uDuJgzjD/file.html

https://mega.nz/#!mYFXhApC!M9a5nuKky3dq ... M6Rg1kGmSE

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:35 am
by Silvery
Thank you for the chapter!

And, uhh, sorry to be that person, but I'm kinda glad this arc is finally over.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:14 am
by 00_unit
Silvery wrote:Thank you for the chapter!

And, uhh, sorry to be that person, but I'm kinda glad this arc is finally over.
Don't be sorry I'm pretty sure some feels the same, I wish he showed us the important question like present alita story, panzer kunst first, rather than throwing curve balls at us like that.

Also I think kagura is the most undeveloped antagonist in the whole series so far

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:53 am
by D3sty
Thanks. It's finally over. This arc seems to have taken years, and there are still threats dangling (like the Mars treasure). :offtopic: Is there any (interessting) news on the upcoming movie?

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:58 am
by MrFaber
Goodby Muster. You have been a pointless, utterly endless subplot no one wanted, but we loved you.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:08 am
by kuroro86
Thank you
Spoiler:
Finally a new ac

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:20 am
by 00_unit
MrFaber wrote:Goodby Muster. You have been a pointless, utterly endless subplot no one wanted, but we loved you.
That's something kamugin would say :mrgreen: which i admit others and I would feel the same

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:32 pm
by kamugin
MrFaber wrote:but we loved you.
We?!? There are no "we" here! Speak about yourself!
Spoiler:
The panel with Muster's and Kagura's skeletons interwined was interesting, a couple embraced by hate, not love. Well done, kishiro.

"The grand drama has JUST begun"!?! Fuck you! Fuuuck you, Kishiro!!! Better start showing some kick ass panzer kunst action next or we will burn you in a stake!
How many of you agree that this Muster's arch was the worst in Gunnm saga?

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:08 am
by 00_unit
kamugin wrote:
MrFaber wrote:but we loved you.
We?!? There are no "we" here! Speak about yourself!
Spoiler:
The panel with Muster's and Kagura's skeletons interwined was interesting, a couple embraced by hate, not love. Well done, kishiro.

"The grand drama has JUST begun"!?! Fuck you! Fuuuck you, Kishiro!!! Better start showing some kick ass panzer kunst action next or we will burn you in a stake!
How many of you agree that this Muster's arch was the worst in Gunnm saga?
it was better than the orphanage arc, the only interesting thing in that arc is alita being an orakel and the potential about flammarion, also the only thing i learnt from Muster arc, is showing how erica is going to become a bitch and the secret treasure whenever that will show up for god knows how long

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:56 am
by kamugin
00_unit wrote: it was better than the orphanage arc, the only interesting thing in that arc is alita being an orakel and the potential about flammarion, also the only thing i learnt from Muster arc, is showing how erica is going to become a bitch and the secret treasure whenever that will show up for god knows how long
To me, what you call "the orphanage arc" is nothing but part of Muster's arch and that ruthless killing of children was on the bad taste side. With it's slug progression, annoying main character (in spite of not being totally uninteresting), lame action sequences, far stretched plot to explain Yoko's origin and many unanswered questios left, this arch deserves 7/10 rotten tomatoes!

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:33 am
by 00_unit
kamugin wrote:
00_unit wrote: it was better than the orphanage arc, the only interesting thing in that arc is alita being an orakel and the potential about flammarion, also the only thing i learnt from Muster arc, is showing how erica is going to become a bitch and the secret treasure whenever that will show up for god knows how long
To me, what you call "the orphanage arc" is nothing but part of Muster's arch and that ruthless killing of children was on the bad taste side. With it's slug progression, annoying main character (in spite of not being totally uninteresting), lame action sequences, far stretched plot to explain Yoko's origin and many unanswered questios left, this arch deserves 7/10 rotten tomatoes!
Hopefully, the we'll get the "grand drama" that was promised soon enough, if it can do something like Steins;gate (not 0 as that is much inferior) where it has an extremely slow start but get much better later on I would be very happy, if not then Kishiro will become the very man he was inspired by, which is Frank Miller where they both become good writers and later on much worst. Also to answer your question I think a lot of people will consider zott the worst arc, not me personally as I enjoyed it a lot as I guess I'm one of the minority.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:45 pm
by Martin
I've loved it. I hope YK goes nuts at Panzer Kunst High. I hope YK is a Naruto fan. This is Gally's origin...we wanted it. It isn't simple.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:07 am
by jjaquinta
I think you guys are being too harsh. I can't rate the Muster arc compared to the rest. I feel different things about them at different times. Both the Vilma back story arc and the Zott both seemed interminable. But I've made my peace with them.
Spoiler:
I'm glad Zoe survived. She was somewhat interesting. I wonder if she has a role in the "Grand Drama".

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:07 am
by kamugin
jjaquinta wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:07 am
I think you guys are being too harsh.
Don't you understand? We like to be harsh! (Me at least, there are a lot of soft and tender harted guys here) If I were to read Muster's arch after it was finished, at once, probably I wouldn’t hate it so much, I would just feel it was inferior to the previous arches, probably it will leave a feeling that Kishiro lost his touch.
Spoiler:
Zoe's destiny is another of the many loose tips in this arch (another reason to hate it). Why she spared the girls, just because of Erica's speech? Gimme a break!

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:33 am
by 00_unit
kamugin wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:07 am
jjaquinta wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:07 am
I think you guys are being too harsh.
Don't you understand? We like to be harsh! (Me at least, there are a lot of soft and tender harted guys here) If I were to read Muster's arch after it was finished, at once, probably I wouldn’t hate it so much, I would just feel it was inferior to the previous arches, probably it will leave a feeling that Kishiro lost his touch.
Spoiler:
Zoe's destiny is another of the many loose tips in this arch (another reason to hate it). Why she spared the girls, just because of Erica's speech? Gimme a break!
I hated that zoey did that too actually, convenient plot armour, also we have an old saying we boo ,because we want to cheer in other words we criticise to see improvements , I tend not to feel angry when I see series quality but rather sad and disappointed as I love this series too much to show anger.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:35 am
by 00_unit
jjaquinta wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:07 am
I think you guys are being too harsh. I can't rate the Muster arc compared to the rest. I feel different things about them at different times. Both the Vilma back story arc and the Zott both seemed interminable. But I've made my peace with them.
Spoiler:
I'm glad Zoe survived. She was somewhat interesting. I wonder if she has a role in the "Grand Drama".
I think zoey we be related to the secret treasure of Mars being revealed eventually

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:48 am
by kamugin
00_unit wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:33 am
we have an old saying we boo ,because we want to cheer
That's it.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:49 pm
by Abaddon


The post-apocalyptic future never looked so clean before!

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:16 pm
by kamugin
Abaddon wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:49 pm
The post-apocalyptic future never looked so clean before!
Man! I'll tell ya! That got me so excited that I I'll watch a BD rip... at the very best. :?

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:23 am
by nick15
I didn't mind the Muster arc as a concept, but it would've been better if it was summarized into a single book. I mean, consider that this past arc was only maybe a couple months of Yoko's story at most, and yet it covers like 4 or 5 books... but the whole history of the Farrells, the family who basically set this world in motion (along with the Vampires), covering some 100 years, filled only two books. As much as I will never not enjoy Kishiro's work, his sense of pacing definitely needs some work.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:55 am
by kamugin
nick15 wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:23 am
I didn't mind the Muster arc as a concept, but it would've been better if it was summarized into a single book. I mean, consider that this past arc was only maybe a couple months of Yoko's story at most, and yet it covers like 4 or 5 books... but the whole history of the Farrells, the family who basically set this world in motion (along with the Vampires), covering some 100 years, filled only two books. As much as I will never not enjoy Kishiro's work, his sense of pacing definitely needs some work.
My theory, that I've mentioned in the past, is that Kishiro was tired of Gunnm, he wanted to drawn a different kind of story, however he couldn't put Gunnm on hiatus. Kentaro Miura is always putting Berserk on hold, so meanwhile he could drawn his own mecha story: "Gigantomachia" that wasn't bad by itself and lasted just one volume, in spite of he left a hook that can make him go back to it later. Kishiro, by his time, wanted to drawn some pirate story with treasure hunt and all (perhaps he is a fan of "One Piece"), so he crammed it into Gunnm to avoid putting it on hiatus.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:42 pm
by Dream
Hopefully this arc bring us to the panzer kunst training now. I really did get bored with that arc, I really feel like a big chunk of the plot was just... not plot. the story could have a few "back and forth" mini arcs cut and end at about the same point.I hope the panzer kunst politics are less convoluted.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:25 am
by MrFaber
I think the panzer kunst arc will be something like a panel at the end of one of the next arcs in which Kishiro will write "...and they spent the next 10 years training in Panzer Kunst". And then he'll start a new, totally unrelated, arc about a random homeless kid who wants to become the greatest fisher ever of the martian artificial lakes.

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:23 am
by kamugin
MrFaber wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:25 am
I think the panzer kunst arc will be something like a panel at the end of one of the next arcs in which Kishiro will write "...and they spent the next 10 years training in Panzer Kunst". And then he'll start a new, totally unrelated, arc about a random homeless kid who wants to become the greatest fisher ever of the martian artificial lakes.
Good guess. :good:
Maybe he could also start a new arc telling the story of Tiger Sauer since when he was a baby saved by Caerula until becoming the funder of Panzer Kunst. Actually I would like to see the time when Aga Mbadi and Caerula were allies. There are so many interesting plots yet to be told, like when Doctor Warez was running amok... Instead what we got: At least five volumes of "The Extraordinaries Adventures of Baron Muster". Facepalm!

Re: Gummn - Mars Chronicle 031 (part 2) Is out!

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:07 am
by 00_unit
kamugin wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:55 am
nick15 wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:23 am
I didn't mind the Muster arc as a concept, but it would've been better if it was summarized into a single book. I mean, consider that this past arc was only maybe a couple months of Yoko's story at most, and yet it covers like 4 or 5 books... but the whole history of the Farrells, the family who basically set this world in motion (along with the Vampires), covering some 100 years, filled only two books. As much as I will never not enjoy Kishiro's work, his sense of pacing definitely needs some work.
My theory, that I've mentioned in the past, is that Kishiro was tired of Gunnm, he wanted to drawn a different kind of story, however he couldn't put Gunnm on hiatus. Kentaro Miura is always putting Berserk on hold, so meanwhile he could drawn his own mecha story: "Gigantomachia" that wasn't bad by itself and lasted just one volume, in spite of he left a hook that can make him go back to it later. Kishiro, by his time, wanted to drawn some pirate story with treasure hunt and all (perhaps he is a fan of "One Piece"), so he crammed it into Gunnm to avoid putting it on hiatus.
What I really think is Yukito seems to be more interested in his dogs than his own work right now, as he updates that of his blog more than his own manga right now talking about his dogs and making dog videos about his two dogs. I still want to see the city of nezher at the Indian ocean, secret treasure, that six eyed raven, Erica's note, and mostly panzer kunst.

Pretty pathetic to see Erica became a bitch because of Muster, I was hoping because something grunthal did something to their students, that would have been more interesting.