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Re: GLO 90

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:58 pm
by Burning Angel
That is just cruel!!!

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:24 pm
by D-Scape
I thank thee for your blessings almighty Crazyankan-dono. :mrgreen:

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:46 pm
by HumanRage
i think the message says "come to mars, yoko, we are waiting for you"

what else could it be...

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:58 pm
by Dharko
jajajaja "the fucking queen" jajajaja..... hey, wait a second!! is Limeira You are talking about!!!

Let her alone, She is with me!!!

And to Sauer: I insist, why translate the phase 090 when you could translate 081, 082, 083, so on...???

This is a loss....

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:05 am
by Sauer
Dream wrote:your translation was rpetty enjoyable to read, thanks. Limeila going "This is the fucking queen giving u a direct fucking order" made me lol.
No, it is I who thanks you sir. That kind of response goes a long way with us translators/scanlators who are never appreciated. In fact, we who sacrifice our time/sleep/lives usually get flamed, pressured, rushed, persecuted for imperfections in our work, etc.
HOLY SHIT LMFAOOOOoooo
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about the pic's lulz factor??
Burning Angel wrote:That is just cruel!!!
Just for you Burning Angel baby, I'll tell you what the secret message says.
Ready? The secret message says: ARE WE HUMAN? OR ARE WE DANCER?

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:53 am
by Dharko
loose words... it is not useful. :?

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:06 am
by crazyankan
I like Sauers summaries.
If he doesn't want to translate chapters, why should we force him?
This is still better than nothing meanwhile we wait for a translation.

but don't talk shit about Queen Limeila!! :wink:

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:48 am
by Dharko
Ok, whaterver. :?

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:08 am
by Sergio Nova
crazyankan wrote:I like Sauers summaries.
If he doesn't want to translate chapters, why should we force him?
This is still better than nothing meanwhile we wait for a translation.

but don't talk shit about Queen Limeila!! :wink:
Let me see if I understood: we have two plebeians interested in the Martian queen?

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:21 pm
by BeastSoulEyes
We can see in this summary some of the most potent and negative effects of WoW :P.

roflmao just jokin QQ kk?!

QQ kk... those two words sound terribly wrong when put together...

Ahhh I have to say what I think about this chapter.

Its an ok chapter, God Alita showing how ridiculously strong she is again. It seems more and more that either Arthur's personality or maybe consciousness is within Melchizedek, she is actually 'asking him' to use Melchizedek's computing capacities to neutralize the waves.

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:23 pm
by BAA Fan
Thanks for the summary


I think the message says:

Come home and we kill you!

or

Who the fuck are you!

or

Come home we miss you!

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:33 pm
by othergrunty
Wait a fraking second. How the hell can someone put a code into those Herzer Nadel impacts and how was Gally normaly supposed to find them?

In order to find them she was supposed to help Zazie, which in turn could only have worked if everything went right and Zazie left the queen. In addition it took Gally the mighties computer in the solar system to cure Zazie and find the message.

So how could Gally find the message without the events which led to her getting that power boost?

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:22 pm
by Dream
maybe the message is generic and not directly addressed to her. Something like "The panzer kunst is back to wreck your shit bitch!" or something.

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:19 am
by Sauer
othergrunty wrote:Wait a fraking second. How the hell can someone put a code into those Herzer Nadel impacts and how was Gally normaly supposed to find them?

In order to find them she was supposed to help Zazie, which in turn could only have worked if everything went right and Zazie left the queen. In addition it took Gally the mighties computer in the solar system to cure Zazie and find the message.

So how could Gally find the message without the events which led to her getting that power boost?
This is my assumption: As Queen Limeira stated, a person who can use the same technique can neutralize the wave. So for example, if I hit Sergio with a wave that goes 1010, you can neutralize the wave by hitting him with a wave that goes 0101. How to put a message in there? Who knows? Maybe morse code?

Image

Hey Dream, the words at the bottom say: "Carrying this mysterious message in her heart, Gally heads for the final battle." I don't think she'd carry something like "the pazer kunst is back to wreck your shit bitch!" in her heart to the finals, rite? Keep guessing! And Burning Angel, I forgot to tell u to highlight the message in my last post to see the answer.
Sauer wrote:Vegeta! What does the scouter say about the pic's lulz factor???
Wtf, no one obliged?
"IT'S OVER NINE THOUSSAAAAAANDD!!!112"

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:29 am
by Sergio Nova
Sauer wrote:So for example, if I hit Sergio with a wave that goes 1010, you can neutralize the wave by hitting him with a wave that goes 0101.
Why me?

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:46 am
by Burning Angel
Maybe the Shatten Forgen technique uses MMWs (millimeter waves) to send radio messages inside cyborg bodies that only other trained kunstlers can interpret, similarly to how a wireless internet network can interpret these waves in a specific frecuency (btw: these waves are a form of low electromagnetic waves used in satillite communication and in radars).

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency

Not only that, but if I am correct and the Shatten Forgen and the Hertzer Nadel uses MMWs, then the techniques seem to apply the Huygens–Fresnel principle of wave deffraction (the knife-edge effect).

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife-edge_effect

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:14 am
by Dharko
ARE WE HUMAN? OR ARE WE DANCER?

don´t understand, which the relation is?

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:13 pm
by crazyankan
Dharko wrote:ARE WE HUMAN? OR ARE WE DANCER?

don´t understand, which the relation is?
It's from The Killers song Human.

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:43 pm
by BAA Fan
With this last hint i think its more like "Come home we miss you" or something other friendly stuff.
Or is somthing like we dont't blame you for your fail.

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:14 pm
by spamlet2002
crazyankan wrote:
Dharko wrote:ARE WE HUMAN? OR ARE WE DANCER?

don´t understand, which the relation is?
It's from The Killers song Human.
pretty interesting if this is the case, especially since that quote from the killers song is also a reference to a hunter s. thompson line about Americans "raising a generation of dancers."

now, obviously being human and being a dancer isn't mutually exclusive, so the line is a metaphor. here's an explanation from yahoo answers that might be helpful in understanding how "dancer" is being used in this context:

"Hunter S. Thompson meant that the US was making people afraid of stepping out of place and following their own beat. He was saying that people were only following the steps they were taught, and were also taught not to change them. In the song "Human" one of the lines is "Some times I get nervous when I see an open door". By this he meant that he is afraid to take different opportunities when they are presented to him, because living in the US has made us all afraid to go against what we've thought for all our lives."

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 803AAcL2QR

so what does this mean in the context of this phase? remember how caerula described alita as an "outsider" whose destiny could not be seen by her swords. erica's message is a question/appeal along the same lines, asking if we are able to follow our own beat (take different opportunities), and question the conventional steps and assumptions that would restrict our independence and free will.

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:47 am
by Dharko
It´s a joke, right?

In this case, Yukito commercial!!!!? Yukito sold to the system!!!??

I hope this is a bad translation or a joke...

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:53 am
by BAA Fan
I thought this is a joke.

By the way name of the Technique Shatten Forgen i think it is German
Shatten should be written as Schatten which means shadow.
forgen hm probably fugen but that makes not much sense to me. Is this word written in Katakana? and where can i find it? Katakana and hiragana is the only thing in japaneese i can translate.

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:15 pm
by spamlet2002
well, if it is a joke it's a lame one.

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:27 pm
by Burning Angel
Ok, I´ve spoken to my german cousins and they've said that "Shatten Forgen" is probably a mistranslation of "Schatten Folgen", which means something like "to be like a shadow" or "to cast a shadow on", which is actually quite fitting.

So the real spelling for the technique is most likely "Schatten Folgen".

Re: GLO 90

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:25 pm
by vacendek
Burning Angel wrote:Ok, I´ve spoken to my german cousins and they've said that "Shatten Forgen" is probably a mistranslation of "Schatten Folgen", which means something like "to be like a shadow" or "to cast a shadow on", which is actually quite fitting.

So the real spelling for the technique is most likely "Schatten Folgen".
I agree with Burning Angel, but I can't be sure without a better translation.
I thought it was Schatten (shadow) and Forge, but folgen (follow) makes more sense.
Schatten Forgen translates to creating shadows.
Schatten Folgen translates to following the shadows.

What I don't understand:
- Is the move supposed to kill the carrier?
- Would a "better" Künstler be able to decipher the message without Arthur?
- Is it possible to read the message without neutralizing all waves?