Phase 81 RELEASED!!

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Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by crazyankan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:09 pm

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by litchi master » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:37 pm

Thanks you rule!!!
Et le coureur à bout de force ... fut accuelli par une tempête de tollés!!!

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by litchi master » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:01 pm

just to let you know I have noticed 3 typing mistakes
p.2 in rakan's profile "Karte" is written instead of "Karate"
and on page 25 there is Legenday instead of legendary and decieve instead of deceive
Thanks again
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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Feanor » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:14 am

I'm glad that you managed to release another chapter (and faster this time).

But I also have to say that I'm a little disappointed about the quality. So far the quality has been great. But when I compare the release of chapter 81 with the raw of this this chapter I have on my harddrive, the raw is clearly better. The borders are much clearer & sharper and the white areas don't have the dust the release has.
The raw for this chapter has been out for ages which means you should have had a lot of time to work on it, so I expected a better quality from you guys.

I hope you will be back to your normal quality with the next release (and I wish you luck in finding a translator).

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Hramm » Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:18 am

Can u upload the raw ?

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by andlgx » Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:35 am

Thanks!

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by vacendek » Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:37 pm

Thx!

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by HumanRage » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:07 pm

great !!
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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by qwertyui » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:58 pm

FUCK YEA

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Exterminanz » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:02 pm

woohoo! you are the Best!
thank you very much!

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Feanor » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:14 pm

Actually I have two versions.
One that seems to be cleaned already. At least it's pretty clean. That's the one I compared your release to.
And I also have a raw that looks like a typical raw. With the gray veil over the picture. I leveled one page of it myself in a minute and it looked better (without any additional cleaning work).

Not that I want to disrespect you or anything. The quality is still alright. I just think compared to your previous releases, this one could've been better.

Here are the raws. But I'm sure they are the same ones you have.
http://rapidshare.com/files/225305488/lo_81.rar.html

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Blitzkrieg » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:18 am

Sweet, Thank you!!!!!! :D

I can die Happy (well almost, have to wait for Kishiro"s last Gunnm chapter :) )

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Hramm » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:15 pm

Feanor wrote:Actually I have two versions.
One that seems to be cleaned already. At least it's pretty clean. That's the one I compared your release to.
And I also have a raw that looks like a typical raw. With the gray veil over the picture. I leveled one page of it myself in a minute and it looked better (without any additional cleaning work).

Not that I want to disrespect you or anything. The quality is still alright. I just think compared to your previous releases, this one could've been better.

Here are the raws. But I'm sure they are the same ones you have.
http://rapidshare.com/files/225305488/lo_81.rar.html
I agree theirs scans are more sharp that the scanlated one, but the fact is that the original cleaned raw had a bigger resolution that the one released.
And the change of resolution did lost quality depending of the software used.
It can be adjusted, but it would habe been better to keep the original resolution, but that's not my part. ^^'
+ the fact that they use png instead of jpg, which is better, especially for resizing.
I should try that next time...
Thought it's was a bigger problem, because from the start the raw looked quite dark.
Whatever, constructive criticism is always appreciated. o_0'

Here's the raw:
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Here's cleaned raw version:
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Here's released version
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Here's released adjusted version:
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Here're your scans:
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In short: mainly a compression problem. :mrgreen:

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by HumanRage » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:08 am

manga scans should always use non-destructive compression, ie. no jpg, only tiff, png or bmp for working files (bmp is more heavy but saves faster)

jpg will do artefacts aroung sharp edges in bi-color areas, unless you lower the compression level and then the file is as big as png... png rulez !
lower color depth to 16bit or even 8bit with dithering/error diffusion (see what's best for each page) and then you a perfect state of the art HQ release, complying the "industry" standards :D
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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Feanor » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:02 pm

True. jpg is only to be used for color pages, while png is used for black/white pages.
I learned to save every page in png-8, adaptive, diffusion, 17 colors. I do it that way since I started and I never heard any complaints.

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by crazyankan » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:17 am

I am using projpeg to make them really small.
And I re-sized them to 1200*8xx instead of 1400*9xx, and changed resolution from 150 to 72.
In series like Eden and Adolf, that I also are typesetting. You can't see any difference.

But if anybody wants HQ, I still have the PSD files on my computer.
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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Hramm » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:03 pm

Can u try to re-release it in png to check the improvement ?

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Feanor » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:16 pm

No need to release it in an higher resolution.
In my opinion 1200 or 1300 is enough. I don't really see a reason to go any higher than that even if the raw might be 1500.

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by hepar » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:26 pm

Hramm wrote:Can u try to re-release it in png to check the improvement ?
I second png - this is the most suiteable format for manga.

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by HumanRage » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:31 am

Feanor wrote:True. jpg is only to be used for color pages, while png is used for black/white pages.
I learned to save every page in png-8, adaptive, diffusion, 17 colors. I do it that way since I started and I never heard any complaints.
my old paint shop pro doesn't allow that much tuning, i need to resample and lower colordepth manually... i don't doubt your setting is state-of-the-art :wink:
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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Hramm » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:37 am

HumanRage wrote:my old paint shop pro doesn't allow that much tuning, i need to resample and lower colordepth manually... i don't doubt your setting is state-of-the-art :wink:
Paint Shop Pro 7 10th Anniversary Edition here. ^^

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by ganku » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:30 am

Thanks for releasing but your archive is broken.
As least linux users using unrar-free cannot extract all of the pictures.

anyway: thanks :D

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by ^Ripper » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:56 am

Paintshop pro is sooo much easyer to use then photoshop...
I can't edit easely with photoshop at all...only typesetting is better in photoshop.

Anyway crazyankan when possible contact me!

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by ^Ripper » Sun May 03, 2009 2:46 am

Our famous v2 released just a sec ago, see manga page.
Fixed the grainyness of the raws (they were dirtyyyy)
Anyway should look better.
Even went with png this time :)

Enjoy!

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Re: Phase 81 RELEASED!!

Post by Feanor » Sun May 03, 2009 3:54 pm

Well I guess it depends on what program you use most. You work yourself into that program more and it's easier to use for you. I only use Photoshop because the first tutorial I used to learn scanlating (the good old 'idiot's guids to editing manga'),used and suggested it. And I have been using it ever since.
Actually I had to download an older version because my newer version had a different layout than the tutorial. So I'm using the old 7.0 (so much for state of the art *gg*).
It suits my purpose though and I think it's easy too use. But it's been a while since I last used Paintshop and I never scanlated with it, so it's hard to compare for me.

And thx for the v2

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