PHASE 100 RELEASED!!

[Abaddon]

I edit my post because I realize that, oh well we don't have anything

[Sergio Nova]

and finally women in Brazil are much prettier than here.

Serious and without jokes: that is difficult. Here in Brazil we do have gorgeous women, but we also have temerities. As to Argentina, I daresay it is not ordinary to find ugly women in your country (the ones I know are highly… well, you got the idea).

Even Battle Angel Alita is published over there and here not

Only the first arc (Hyper Future Vision) was published here. The editors gave up because it is not a commercial work.

[kamugin]

I'm sure that with another four years of our actual president in no matter of time Argentina will be the most corrupt country in the world
Yes you're right, we are always behind Brazil in everything (and I'm honest with this) a more organizated government, you play football much better (I have to admit I like Pele much more than Maradona) and finally women in Brazil are much prettier than here.

Even Battle Angel Alita is published over there and here not

WAS published here (only the HFV) and in a lousy format. Fortunately the manga editions have improved a bit since then.

Hermano, I really doubt our government is better than yours, but I don't want to prolong this off-topic tread with boring and depressing statiscs. Let me say only this: here we live in a "cleptocracy", a republic of thieves, and our people bear far more expensive congressmen than yours are.

And about the women, what a laugh! You are judging based only in Carnival pictures I bet. With all those Italian descendants Argentine have, your average women must be prettier than ours =P

But our Garrincha was even Better than Pelé =)

[Cailon]

The sad thing is, it's not like "the westerns world" is a bunch of perfect countries either. If you talk to immigrants they are always full of enthusiasm for germany, because we do have free elections, we do have a social system, we don't have policemen that you can bribe with some Euros and so forth. Yes. But is our country better? No. Forgive me, but our elite is just much more intelligent in bullshitting it's people.

I don't understand why your elites make their lives so difficult If you oppress every ounce of free will, every ambition for democracy, people will get mad and will eventually go on the sreets. Thus you need more police, to enforce them, causing even more anger towards the government and so on.

In the western world, everyone is sitting on their couch and is satisfied with his little bit of wealth ("and if they'll ever take that away from me, well THEN I'll make use of my freedom of speech!!"). Because sitting and thinking isn't good, we have lot's of stupid TV-channels. All media isn't really controlled by the government but by 3-5 large companys that are this close to the government.
To add even more occupational therapy, every now and then the elite provokes a fight between the people: fat vs. slim, rich vs. poor, germans vs. immigrants (because this is germany, this is our pet subject. We can debate endlessly over that), smokers vs. non-smokers, men vs. women and so on.

So the people are never one group against the few 5% of elites, they are always part of a sub-group that's a minority. While the people fighting and debating among themselves (aided by the media), the elites play the game. The are bullshitting us all in the open. You know how much money they spend to help broke banks. It's not like this amount of money was discussed in secret or anything...
But we are the Westerners, we don't have corruption, no! Every now and then, a little scandal is "uncovered", we'll have a huuuge indignation, and quickly a board of inquiry is instated - and then you'll never hear of the matter again, newspapers won't write about it, people forget everything about it and next time they'll vote for the very same party.

Western countries are masters in the "revolution from above". If the people are starting to get anrgy, why making your life hard with oppressing them? Give them just some tiny little more civil rights - the masses, basis of all revolutions, will falter, cause they "got what they wanted".
Without the masses, you declare the ongoing extremists as madmen, hunt them down or disgrace them (claim that they rape children and/or are muslims. You don't need evidence), and everythig is quiet for the next 20-50 years. Easy.

[TargaryenX]

I have a feeling this thread is about to go waaay off topic.

So the people are never one group against the few 5% of elites, they are always part of a sub-group that's a minority.

What makes you think that the elites are all part of a unified conspiracy to oppress the little man? If anything competition is even fiercer at the top.

[Doctrine]

What makes you think that the elites are all part of a unified conspiracy to oppress the little man?

Each elite group is a conpiracy unit. There's a lot of minor conspiracies looking for social power. "They" want to keep thier good situation, and they do it at the cost of maintenance of poverty all around the world. They do it unconsciously.

[Sergio Nova]

My Lord!! TargaryenX is right! The conspiracy theory has invaded this erstwhile pacific forum.
God help us!

[kamugin]

I don't understand why your elites make their lives so difficult If you oppress every ounce of free will, every ambition for democracy, people will get mad and will eventually go on the sreets. Thus you need more police, to enforce them, causing even more anger towards the government and so on.

They don't make their lives difficult, they make OUR lives difficult! =P
Unfortunatley the only things able to move people to the streets here are the Carnival and football, we are a very peaceful sheep herd.

All media isn't really controlled by the government but by 3-5 large companys that are this close to the government.

Here too, our Rede Globo, the 4th biggest TV broadcast company in the world, have an essential role to keep the people distracted and peaceful. "Panis et circus". But here we have only the circus unfortunately.

Every now and then, a little scandal is "uncovered", we'll have a huuuge indignation, and quickly a board of inquiry is instated - and then you'll never hear of the matter again, newspapers won't write about it, people forget everything about it and next time they'll vote for the very same party.

This is so Brazil like! I see they use the same "modus operandi" (I feel like using Latin expressions today) all over the capitalist world.

If the people are starting to get anrgy, why making your life hard with oppressing them? Give them just some tiny little more civil rights - the masses, basis of all revolutions, will falter, cause they "got what they wanted".

Well, here we dont get even that "tiny bit" =(

[kamugin]

I have a feeling this thread is about to go waaay off topic.

Indeed... But now this is unavoidable =P

What makes you think that the elites are all part of a unified conspiracy to oppress the little man? If anything competition is even fiercer at the top.

Aha! We have an elite spokesman here! =P

[kamugin]

...this erstwhile pacific forum.

Pacific like the Gaza Strip =P

[Doctrine]

I work on a public school. We receive lots of different newspapers everyday (even on Sundays )
The government pays all the prices... but why?

Because, by doing this, the newspaper can't show any bad news about the governor and his "friends". Since the internet exists, all other media is being forgotten (except video games, maybe). But people seem to prefer to look at a monitor than read a large piece of paper. Some newspapers are about to break. With this help of the public administration they can breathe, but can't be against our democraticly chosen politicians. Isn't it a conspiracy?

What a shame

[Sergio Nova]

But people seem to prefer to look at a monitor than read a large piece of paper. Some newspapers are about to break. With this help of the public administration they can breathe, but can't be against our democraticly chosen politicians. Isn't it a conspiracy?

What a shame

Bullshit! In Brazil, the present government has had scandal after scandal since it took possession; Lula was humiliated by the "powerful" Bolivian empire; congressmen were photographed carrying money in suitcases; Hugo Chavez made a mess in Honduras and put the president, who had been incompetent to make a coup d'état, in Brazilian embassy.

Results:
1. Lula was re-elected;
2. People love him - the "savior" of our nation;
3. He indicated a successor who was completely unknown (better to her, as her biography as a terrorist would not be too recommended) and she is about to be elected.


Now during the campaign, the press has denounced all sorts of conspiracy (violation of fiscal privacy, bought of votes, and so on) and as a result, she has increased in all the researches.

Right now, neither printed press nor broadcasters are protecting her. She shows she does NOT need them, simply.

In short, kamugin is right. This a nation of lambs going pacifically to the abattoir.

[Sergio Nova]

Pacific like the Gaza Strip =P

If Benjamin Netanyahu says, who am I to contest?

[kamugin]

3. He indicated a successor who was completely unknown (better to her, as her biography as a terrorist would not be too recommended) and she is about to be elected.

Now during the campaign, the press has denounced all sorts of conspiracy (violation of fiscal privacy, bought of votes, and so on) and as a result, she has increased in all the researches.

Right now, neither printed press nor broadcasters are protecting her. She shows she does NOT need them, simply.

ATÉ TU, BRUTUS?! (again)

I don't like Dilma, but seeing you, Sergio, repeating this bullshit engendered by Veja magazine, Folha de São Paulo newspaper and Globo TV is really disappointing =(

The supposed scandal of violation of fiscal privacy was known by José Serra (the second placed candidate) and his bunch since November of last year, before the presidential campaign started! So why bring this to surface right now if isn't only to gain profit? He isn't compelled by some "justice" notion. And they also failed to demonstrate to the people why the fiscal privacy violation compromised his daughter. This is was just some nonsense they caught up because of the despair they feel seeing Dilma so far ahead in the public-opinion polls.

The Veja magazine is so detestable that recently they even interviewed Dilma's jailor when she was imprisoned by the dictatorship! So who they will bring later? Her torturer?!

I don't like Lula and Dilma, but I dislike Serra and Fernando Henrique even more!

But no, I won't vote in Dilma, my candidate is Plínio! But I'm hoping this electoral circus ends in the first round with Serra and his supporters receiving a well deserved knockout!

With this the off-topic is consolidated, but I'll not bother the people here with Brazilian elections affairs any more. So, Sergio, please PM me your replies if there will be any.

[kamugin]

If Benjamin Netanyahu says, who am I to contest?

I see myself more like Yasser Arafat

[Doctrine]

Right now, neither printed press nor broadcasters are protecting her

Oh I forgot to mention: I was talking about Serra

[Cailon]

I have a feeling this thread is about to go waaay off topic.

It's all the hiatus's fault!^^

But it's no conspiracy, it happens openly. It's called free-enterprise system Like Doctrine said (and I may have sounded a bit too conspiracy-like) there might be no big concept behind it all but it's done unconsciously, by those 5% of the population that holds 90% or more of the wealth. Sure competition is fierce and some people ascent into those 5% and some fall out of it. But once you're on top, most people would go rather far to not lose it all again.

[Sergio Nova]

Your words are contradictory

The supposed scandal of violation of fiscal privacy was known by José Serra

If it is known, it is not supposed, man.

repeating this bullshit engendered by Veja magazine, Folha de São Paulo newspaper and Globo TV is really disappointing =(

1. Violation is violation, no matter if my mother made it.
2. I simply said that during the campaign, the press has denounced all sorts of conspiracy (violation of fiscal privacy, bought of votes, and so on) and as a result, she has increased in all the researches. In short, I was commenting that the world famous "4th power" is relative. If you felt the need to defend her, it is your right, but I just reported facts.

By the way, I DID NOT mention names. The case is not if I vote for Serra, Marina, Plínio or Emayel (all right, I am not that stupid), the fact is that this government has ALWAYS being invasive.

And they also failed to demonstrate to the people why the fiscal privacy violation compromised his daughter.

Wrong again. I agree that it is true that Serra - and everyone else - has already lost this election. Actually, the way the so-called Labor Party (is there any "worker" in control there?) has taken the régime, they will last much more than the PSDB in São Paulo. You are wrong when you ask for compromise. If someone shoots you, it is indifferent it he reached the target, man. It is a crime. Do NOT tell me it is not.

Interesting, you insist all the time you are not going to vote for Dilma, but you are too much interested in defending her. Just read your own lines, please. If that is not a confession, I do not know what a confession is.

I could certainly point many positive aspects in this government, but the problem (and, honestly, I do NOT give a shit if you disagree) is that the number of negative points is surprisingly gigantic. Or can you not see this IS the most corrupt government in history? Even Delfin Neto was softer (by the way, Delfin Neto, Paulo Maluf and Fernando Collor support Dilma - what an alliance! The petistas have sold their soul for long).

The Veja magazine is so detestable that recently they even interviewed Dilma's jailor when she was imprisoned by the dictatorship! So who they will bring later? Her torturer?!

I don't like Lula and Dilma, but I dislike Serra and Fernando Henrique even more!

But no, I won't vote in Dilma, my candidate is Plínio! But I'm hoping this electoral circus ends in the first round with Serra and his supporters receiving a well deserved knockout!

1. Veja has always being exaggeratedly critic about who is in power. That is true since democracy came back to the country. They criticized Collor, Ribamar, and Fernando Henrique. But you poor children are hurt because they criticize Lula ("Oh! They are against us! Buaaahhhh!")

2. You should study Brazilian recent history. Serra and Fernando Henrique were important architects in the process of democratizing the country - and what you and I think about them DO NOT change history.

3. I could point many negative points in Fernando Henrique government, but I have to admit that, if Lula has a balanced economy, Fernando Henrique, not Lula, implanted the monetary reformation. As to Serra, I can see you hate him. Stupidity! Do you really believe the UNO declared him as the best health minister on the planet just to protect PSDB? Or to make him president? If you had read my post correctly, you would have seen why I dislike Lula (I still cannot believe that being humiliated by Evo Morales and Hugo Chavez make a chief of state). What I mean is, if you want to make propaganda, do it well, so I can see your points.

With this the off-topic is consolidated, but I'll not bother the people here with Brazilian elections affairs any more. So, Sergio, please PM me your replies if there will be any.

Excuse me. You made your campaign in the open. I WILL NOT reply in the private.

[moooV]

Ooo, YEAH!
Let the shit flow!

This time it's me, who stays away.

[Sergio Nova]

Ooo, YEAH!
Let the shit flow!

Indeed!

[kamugin]

Ooo, YEAH!
Let the shit flow!

This time it's me, who stays away.

No, I've learned a bit since the last time. I asked him to give his response privately since our internal affairs are of very little interest to foreign people, we aren't an important country like US, Russia or China. Perhaps I'll reply him, but I'll do this in private.

[Doctrine]

It's all the hiatus's fault!^^

I'm the newbie here, so I don't know what's happening... What's the (short) story about this hiatus?

[Lemonlol]

What's the (short) story about this hiatus?

GLO's on hiatus.

[crazyankan]

It's all the hiatus's fault!^^

I'm the newbie here, so I don't know what's happening... What's the (short) story about this hiatus?

We have some topics about it.

But the story in short is something about this...
- Yukito was planning on celebrating the 100th BAALO chapter, but the editors was bitching about changing some old speech bubbles from the old BAA for the new print. And Yukito thought it was disrespectful from them, so he went on hiatus.

[crazyankan]

Lemonlol: lol