Excuse me, but Waterworld is among the greatest mistakes of universal cinema. If in Mad Max 3 the central character is a rewriting of Moses (Auntie is the pharaoh and the desert is the Red Sea), in search of a promised land, the plagiarism is poor and, honestly, neither the director was interested in the film. It is probably the most expensive B film in history.HumanRage wrote: "Waterworld" is somehow an aquatic max max, and got very bad press but is very detailed actually.
Artistic influence in BAA
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what the hell are you talking about ?
i talk about artworks taking place in a mad max universe, such as mad max 2, hokuto no ken, waterworld (even if it is an aquatic mad max)
what about moses and red sea and shit ? mad max 3 is rubbish and boring, who talked about that one ? not me.
and waterworld got bad press but isn't as bad as they say, there is lot of stuff inside that movie actually, even with all its flaws (which are none other than any action packed movie, actually)
you should stop that superior tone of yours, makes you rushing in wrong way...
i talk about artworks taking place in a mad max universe, such as mad max 2, hokuto no ken, waterworld (even if it is an aquatic mad max)
what about moses and red sea and shit ? mad max 3 is rubbish and boring, who talked about that one ? not me.
and waterworld got bad press but isn't as bad as they say, there is lot of stuff inside that movie actually, even with all its flaws (which are none other than any action packed movie, actually)
you should stop that superior tone of yours, makes you rushing in wrong way...
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Well, you mentioned Waterworld, and such a movie is an explicit plagiarism of Mad Max 3 (yes, the third one), especially when referring to the promised land (I believe you remember that).HumanRage wrote: what about moses and red sea and shit ? mad max 3 is rubbish and boring, who talked about that one ? not me.
What the press says is indifferent to me. When I say the movie is a piece of trash, it is simply my private opinion. Even if you do not agree with me, you must know that different opinions do exist.HumanRage wrote:waterworld got bad press but isn't as bad as they say.
It is NOT a superior tone, and I honestly cannot understand where you saw that. It is only and just my personal opinion. I saw the film, and I DID NOT like it, as it lacks originality. Simply that!HumanRage wrote:you should stop that superior tone of yours, makes you rushing in wrong way...
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all post apocalyptic lacks originality, it's all "mad max stuff"
story line of MM3 and WW maybe the same, i didn't noticed and didn't care, for me MM3 is an advert for tina turner musical album, and a way of making more money from a good old story.
seeking a promised land, it doesn't even take a cataclysm event, since you can find those in all religions to date, and indeed it is to be expected from a post -apocalyptic tribe...
actually, a movie/story having no promised land and no hope, would be the original one
i think our eyes don't see things the same way...
story line of MM3 and WW maybe the same, i didn't noticed and didn't care, for me MM3 is an advert for tina turner musical album, and a way of making more money from a good old story.
seeking a promised land, it doesn't even take a cataclysm event, since you can find those in all religions to date, and indeed it is to be expected from a post -apocalyptic tribe...
actually, a movie/story having no promised land and no hope, would be the original one

i think our eyes don't see things the same way...
Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. (Oscar Wilde)
Corporations have no soul to save, and they have no body to incarcerate. (Baron Thurlow)
Corporations have no soul to save, and they have no body to incarcerate. (Baron Thurlow)
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Mad Max: I've never seen either, so I skipped through the first part (I couldn't believe how very un-Mad Max-ish that was^^) and watched part two afterwards. Indeed I always had MM2 in mind when thinking about the MM-universe.
You should watch "The Road" (or read the book, which is most likely even better). Most depressing (and probably most realistic) movie I've ever seen that deals with the post apocalyptic theme.HumanRage wrote:actually, a movie/story having no promised land and no hope, would be the original one![]()
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Watched the third part yesterday. Wow.
The first half is okay, but not bad. But the second part is... idiotic. How unbeleivably retarded should these people be to reduce to a stone age and a cargo cult in several years after the catastrophe?
Anyway, several centuries have to pass even after the worldwide nuclear war for such events to emerge. However, even in such circumstances they're very unlikely to happen - people will remain more or less civilized and start rebuilding right after the catastrophe.
Also, it's simply impossible to destroy all the knowledge and technologies - the only way is a planetary catastrophe, but not the nuclear war.
The first half is okay, but not bad. But the second part is... idiotic. How unbeleivably retarded should these people be to reduce to a stone age and a cargo cult in several years after the catastrophe?
Anyway, several centuries have to pass even after the worldwide nuclear war for such events to emerge. However, even in such circumstances they're very unlikely to happen - people will remain more or less civilized and start rebuilding right after the catastrophe.
Also, it's simply impossible to destroy all the knowledge and technologies - the only way is a planetary catastrophe, but not the nuclear war.
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Actually I'm in the wrong thread but it's not enough to open a new one I guess. Or are there more eastereggs to find in BAA/GLO?
Back when Zazie got the ticket to go help Alita in the ZOTT, there was a QR-code on it.
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After Sergio scanned the part in HQ, I ran it through a decrypting site online ("イェールへ行って100万メガソルを当てよう!!") and TargaryenX translated it. The outcome: "Go to Ketheres and win 1 million megasols!"
Back when Zazie got the ticket to go help Alita in the ZOTT, there was a QR-code on it.


After Sergio scanned the part in HQ, I ran it through a decrypting site online ("イェールへ行って100万メガソルを当てよう!!") and TargaryenX translated it. The outcome: "Go to Ketheres and win 1 million megasols!"
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It is probably a sort of mileage program, I think.
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Is that what winning the commonwealth prize is worth? 

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Has someone read (or watched) "The Inhabited Island" ("Обитаемый остров")? The movie (of the 1969 novel) is either called by that name or "Dark Planet" or "Prisoners of Power".
Maybe not an influence, but they have mind-controlling devices there, a little like the unanimous-system. I'm thinking about purchasing the novel, can someone recommend it?
Maybe not an influence, but they have mind-controlling devices there, a little like the unanimous-system. I'm thinking about purchasing the novel, can someone recommend it?
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I haven't read it, but have seen the first part of the movie (it's separated into two parts, with a year release gap). After watching it I did not have any will to watch the second one.
And it was an unbeleivable crap - the actors, the director (also actead as the bald guy taking bath), the idea, the plot. Everything. Just everything.
And it was an unbeleivable crap - the actors, the director (also actead as the bald guy taking bath), the idea, the plot. Everything. Just everything.
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