Guess for the next arc?

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Guess for the next arc?

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What could you see fitting for the next arc? Plots, Battles, Meeting etc...

The first and easy guess that comes in mind: It will be on Mars...maybe. :?:
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The Sun becomes a supernova and everybody dies (i'm preety sure a rational explanation for this will appear)
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Doctrine wrote:The Sun becomes a supernova and everybody dies (i'm preety sure a rational explanation for this will appear)
it's the remnants of Mbadi floating towards the sun that caused it :P
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The Onion Frame lands on Zekka. :twisted:
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AR-99 wrote:The Onion Frame lands on Zekka. :twisted:
No problem for zekka he still has an arm and 2 legs 8)
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Mars looks like the most obvious choice at the moment.
what we need now is some sort of connection between the current end of Zott and a proper departure to Mars.
things will probably heat down for a little while now. we may be up for a small time skip, like 2-3 month maybe. time for Gally to claim her prize, annd organize stuff with Zalem. I could see lots of characters staying there, especially the bunnies. then gally and zazi prepare to go to Mars meet the princess. with Vilma going with them, or at least following them.
I don't think zekka will go. and at the moment I hardly see zechs wanting to go either. Probably time for Gally to get a new "team".

Also I would hope that lou's question would be ended once and for all. probably a page flashback, with lou being resurrected, but no memories or Gally so she just leave her and lou gets a small job in zalem and that makes everybody happy.

Mars and the panzer kunst return will probably be a mix of fights and lots of flashbacks from different point of views (I think that's could be a good reason to keep vilma in the story. she was there in that past after all). pieces will put themselves together and in the end we'll have some dramatic end or something. Not to see if Kishiro wants to expand more after that. I'd happily welcome a definitive, not rushed, ending for Gunnm at this point. then Mr Kishiro could come back to aqua knight, or start something completely new.
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First of all, this arc isn't over yet. There is still the matter of Lou's brain that has to be retrieved. She has to get it back somehow which means she probaly has to wait either for Ping Wu or she'll get help from robot aasylum. Then there will be the reaction from the other states (Jupiter and Venus), will unanimous be deactivated now M'badi is gone and will she share her prize with Toji ? After those things are settled she can go to Mars. I think, when Gally goes to Mars, Sechs will want to come with her because he lacks her memories of Panzer kunst on Mars and wants to become more adapt at it (and discover more about Alita's past in the process) in order to beat her, which was always his main goal. If he goes to Mars he can gain that experience. Offcourse there is also the matter of the assasination of the king of Mars. Will it be discovered on Earth or on Mars?
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Lou's brain was already retrieved. Alita traded her brain with Super Nova for it and it's still hanging out in the F-Box which was given to Deckman 100 back in the Semifinals.
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Now here is my guess, Gally go back with Zazie and her team on mars fighting the nazi, there she goes fighting with Raven Tsai working for the Nazi and rebuilt by NovaX. She win, then another fight but this time with FrauX who is in fact...: Gally, well her true brain that NovaX took back from the incubator, goes on mars and put in a new body so he could enjoy the dual ego battle with true brain and brainchip like a pervert he is (remember Mauer saying "She is my angel" V12ch87...). Then goes an epic fight with Gally FrauX who got all her martian memory unlocked and know the very essence of panzer kuntz, and Gally brainchip with Morgana+wormhole (Gally brainchip has only partial memory of mars coming back little by little, it's not the case of the true brain who has all of them from back Vol1ch1)...who will win? I think it would be the brainchip Gally. Also a lots of philosophical stuff like always.
How about that?
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Did you really think... it would be that easy...

Joke asides, it's highly likely a power reboot will happen with brainchip Gally disappearing from the scene and "real brain" Gally, with no Morgana and Wormhole back to the spotlight and going to Mars.

Time will tell as always, however I have a good feeling about what's coming!
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I think the original Alita brain will have an element or two from Den, Jashugan and Imaginos and be bad. Or she will be full flesh and nice and say bad things to Last-Order-Alita.
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Figure Four is running a fleshy brothel in the Scrapyard.
Erika enters the Stellar Nursery Society.
Alita becomes a restaurateur on Venus.
(After some absurdities I have just read, these points will be easy :lol: ).
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It is fun to speculate what the real brain has going on with it.

A cool idea I just had is what if the original BAA finale is an ouroboros adventure she was on.

That would serve a couple of purposes. It would tie in the hilarious real-life situation of, "oh yeah, forget that one book I did, this is what really happened."

Waking up full flesh, with that outcome as a dream, and the final point of her dream demonstrating her devotion to Figure; that would be cool. At this point, brain chip Alita has had a lot of time to show she cares at all about figure, and it would serve the dynamic of the story (real brains v fake brains debate) to address in the narrative that she clearly doesn't.

Also, I could live with Space Desty Nove bringing her back full flesh, with or without martian memories, picking up exactly when the booby trap blew her up in book 8.

At that moment in time, Alita might not like the idea of a robot impersonator becoming the most important thing in the Solar System.

A long term problem with the full flesh resurrection is if she were to feel as if that isn't her real body. We have already been shown that she had been a full conversion cyborg since apparently 3-6 years old. I don't want to drag in the video game spoiler/story, but I dig it.

So rewarding to read this comic long term, even if the Zott dragged on and took a massive vampire detour.

I am now officially hoping for a full flesh alita, and some king of bigotry against brain bio chips...
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Gally will travel to Mercury, and resolve the entire nano-machine madness in the entire planet.

The she goes to pluto, making tourism where mbadi fought Valles.
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Erika wrote:Gally will travel to Mercury, and resolve the entire nano-machine madness in the entire planet.

The she goes to pluto, making tourism where mbadi fought Valles.
Meantime, Super Nova will organize a ballet company in Nezher.
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Mars seems very obvious and it will eventually end up there.
There might be something in between like space pirates or something but that shouldn't take long to solve.

Now on the Martian problem... I don't remember if that has been said yet and if that has been please forgive me. But as I see it the structure of Yukito Kishiro's narrative can be summed up as history repeats itself as a circle or rather as a spiral that keeps getting bigger.
Indeed As I see it, the author is repeating the story of the original BAA but in a larger introducing minor changes just the way history keeps repeating itself. Just in a slightly different way.
To put it roughly the tiphares arc mirrors kuzutetsu as tiphareans are also eploited by an unknown power and in a state of crisis. Alita is again resurected by a tipharean scientist who found her in a pile of rubbish.... but a very different one though.
Ketheres is more than the mirror image of Tiphares as it introduces us to solar system politics. thanks to the ladder and the Zott we are made to understand the intricacies of politics in the Solar system as well as the origins of the BAA's world.

Now the Zott is in fact a double mirror image of the motorball arc. let me explain: First for Alita it replicates the bloody competition that serves as a means to control the population and preventing it from rebelling by providing catharsis. Her mental state is also affected in both cases: she is mourning Yugo's death, she is plagued by remorse for the death of the kid on leviathan, and at the back of her mind her doubts concerning her own humanity start to plague her with the aparition of colonel Payne. In this competion she also meets an extremely powerful rival who will prove be some a kind of a spiritual guide. Jashugan-Caerula. and in both cases the fights end in an unstatisfying manner. Both were stronger than her and her life was spared only because they saw great things in her.

Now it can also be considered as Sechs motrball arc as he will also encounter a powerful rival figure in the person of Zekka. A rival that he will have to taunt to get his attention. In the sameway though, the bout will end in an unsatifying manner as sechs will prove too inexperienced to vanquish zekka. Leaving others to end the fight in the most unexpected manner.


So we can expect that once again mars will mirror the tuned arc as once again alita will be have to save the day at the expense of her body. Then what little remains of her conciousness will be asked to serve the interests of a greater power(tiphares/zeus and Arthur) or else....she'll simply disappear. So I expect she will be given a new body, maybe the fata morgana and the wormhole reactor will be disappear at the moment and off to mars she will go.

of course not everything is repeated in the same order as it was in the original story as for instance the nano tree comes right after the zott and we still haven't had a vengeful Nova improved character come after alita destroying everything in his wake.
You might think of Tsaikrow, but I think he will be an anticlimax, and he will get his ass handed to him. I rather think of Frau X.

So now what can we expect on Mars.
_Alita will have to face a civil war but this time there i n't just two parties but Four so everything will have a bigger scale.

_Alita might also find someone from her past gelda or the old panzer kunst master. which mirrors ido in the first series.

_ a showdown with Frau X which could mirror either the bout with her double or with zapan or eelai.

_Alita's mission may be to restore peace on Mars but also chase after desty nova. a tiphares scientist that has knownledge regarding nanothechnology. He may be regarded as extremely dangerous by the powers of the solar system as he might well replicate the actions of Dr Warez,whom I have always seen as a proleptic character foreshadowing what Desty nova will become.
and ironically enough Alita will have to get in M'badi's shoes and take out a rebellious tiphares scientist that wrecks havoc. and who is protected by body guards from a rebellious faction neo nazi/barjack.

_We may also know what has become of the brain, a brain alita vs chip alita battle? mirroring the battle vs gr2?
_the origin of the spontaneous combustion?
_more caerula and stellar nursery. maybe another bout to show how much Alita has improved. or maybe Caerula maybe killed to show how powerful frau X an unknown enemy is.
_A weird theory of mine....
And a happy ending.

It may be pretty mixed up but I hope it makes sense.
At least I was not mistaken when I thought that she would end up working for a higher power like she did for Tiphares. I only tought it would be the ladder and didn't see Arthur and Zeus coming at the time.
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I feel like brain chip Gally would stomp all over flesh brain Gally. The Zott did a good job of being this galactic super gauntlet. Even without the worm hole and melchizadek uplink (whatever that is good for); the Imaginos body plus the full martian memories plus the experiences of Zott make her/it a lot bigger and badder than Tuned Gally, imho.

Heck, Sechs is no joke either, he/she/it could probably take her. Everything has changed so much since that brain was doing anything.

Full Flesh Gally, I vote!!!
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I wonder if all of this was planned by Nova and if he planned it how far ahead would he have planned it? Could it be, that when he did all those experiments on the surfae of earthhe was trying to reach out to Gally and test her strength to see if she was up to this challenge or did he planned it after he gave her her new body and took out her brain? I wonder. If he planned this all ahead, it would put him imo on the same scale as Caerula. Any opinions on that?
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Not gonna lie, this thread is hilarious!!!

Also what I truly hope is that Brain Chip Gally and True Gally will be in such different contexts that there won't any power comparisons possible between the two, like asking who is more powerful, an influential politician or a die-hard soldier, different contexts, different level of "power".

Especially with the war-torn setting on Mars, we can expect a more visceral, down-to-earth, martial take on the story hopefully, with less complicated technologies (some of those venusians monsters seeming... 'inefficient'), more chats between characters possible (outside of the time-constrained setting of the ZOTT), and something closer to what Gunnm was at the beginning...

As I said, I'm eagerly waiting for more :mrgreen:

Edit: @litchi master, you have a pretty good point!
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BeastSoulEyes wrote: As I said, I'm eagerly waiting for more :mrgreen:
You forgot to mention the talkshow Jack Gerambo will start on CNN. First interview: Super Nova (the second, according to my sources, will be Hegeor Hopper).
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considering the way YK paces his stories, anyone else feel like "The Adventures of Figure Four and the AR Series Drone" are going to last a bit.

It is a fun ride, but omg...I can't see this part going a year plus, but who knows.

It is kind of fun, because the FF chapter has always been my absolute favorite and I felt like his neglect had gone on for far too long.
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Martin wrote:considering the way YK paces his stories, anyone else feel like "The Adventures of Figure Four and the AR Series Drone" are going to last a bit.
AR series Drone? What are you talking about?
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they are replicas made from a copy of alita's "ghost". they don't have access to the locked memories, despise having a brainchip like the original.

we shall deduce from that that the soul can't be copied (only a 99% quantum copy could be achieved, aka arthur, cerula...), and thus the AR-series are more like very advanced robots, and 6, 11&12 individuality is only due to either a glitch in the copy process (hence, 11 copies) or nova's intervention.

after all, he did say that he unlocked alita's memories when he gave her the imaginos body...
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The AR series are just a group of androids with brain chips that gives them human-level intelligence. The only "memories" from Alita/Gally that they have are the battle data (techniques, tactics, strategies, enemies, weapon experience...) the GIB gathered while they monitered Alita, as she accomplished her missions as a TUNED agent for 10 years. And since the AR androids are all independant from one another, they each developed their own individual personalities.
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