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kylerainer3 · Post by **kylerainer3** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:54 pm

hey im thinking maybe Julia Volkova (tatu) could be the role for alita movie she looks like her what do you think

please dont hurt me

Dream · Post by **Dream** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:20 pm

DO NOT WANT!

Sorry, but I just can't imagine Gally played by a caucasian person. Of course, her appeareance in the manga is closer to that than the japanese stereotype, but still.
An half asian actress would probably work the best, but I don't really know any that could fit the role.

kylerainer3 · Post by **kylerainer3** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:25 pm

of course nobody could looks like a character in manga but somebody closer to that appearance or somebody that the fan like could be or not?
and Julia with some makeup is Gally¡¡¡¡¡
and i like her she beautifull

Dream · Post by **Dream** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:00 pm

sorry, but my knowledge of tatu is basically :
- Your pics. Average girls. The haircut isn't enough to make someone look like Gally.
- 2 shitty song that we got in France and that I hated.
- "lol they are lesbians so they are awesome" kind of comments I kept hearing when they were "popular".

So, yeah, I'm probably hugely biased there.

moooV · Post by **moooV** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:39 pm

No similarity with Alita at all.

Yulja Volkova and Lena Katina are russian band and they were very popular here in russia bout four years ago, but...

1)
Their music really sucked ass and they were just a band for little stupid school girls, who would scream any time they see them (they played POP music, which is garbage itself, not just their songs ). Also, their music was really silly and ridiculous, without any idea, "message" or something, made just for grabbing money. Their music was made the way it would repeat, "replay" in your head round by round, making you feel mad, not leaving you until you take big headphones and turn $lipknoT to the max volume to release your mind from this trash.

They had really big ratings only because of their style, "image", or being just diffent to others - they played lesbians (but they weren't in reality), which draw more ratings, because people who lived their whole life in USSR, were not used to seeing videos like that (like a freak show).

2)
They were nothing (computer - mixed music and voice from some "musical niggers" [as it's called here in russia - means "someone has made a sound track 'phonogramm' for them - they only opened their mouth to fit into music"] - as 99% or russian (and not only russian) music stars did and are doing now) - all their popularity based on their sexual orientation, work of their producer (Ivan Shapovalov) and hype in all musical mass media (hello, MTV!), worthless celebrities.

3)

The haircut isn't enough to make someone look like Gally.

Totally true.
If you judge by haircut, see photos of Tokio hotel [someone please kill them!!! - my sister listens to them and has posters in whole her room, their annoying music is worse than tatu's] - their singer has Alita-like haircut [he's male], looks similar, isn't it? Then, he is a good candidate for a role of Alita, following your logic.

In addition, face does not match at all: Volkova has turned up nose, shape of face is more circle-like, while Alita has more triangle-like face, also, her eyebrows have a form of an arch near the skull sides, and Alita has mostly straight eyebrows.

4)

Sorry, but I just can't imagine Gally played by a caucasian person.

She isn't caucasian. She is average russian girl from Moscow. Caucasian girls have nothing to do with her and Alita especially. They are ugly somehow (IMHO), also they have a small and thin moustache on their face (strange, but true).

I'd say Alita looks similar to Siberian girls (or they look similar? o_0), or maybe some West-European, but not caucasian at all, and (that's strange), doesn't look like average japanese anime/manga stereotypic girl.

I see girls who look similar to Alita at the streets all the time here (St. Petersburg) [or maybe hallucinations, or I think they look similar? o_0].

So, to say that "she is possibly capable of playing Alita" you have to have more than a haircut and basic body constitution match. You must have matches in lots of angles of view and facial nuances. And it is DEFINITELY NOT (P=1) Yulja Volkova. =///

Twitchywrote · Post by **Twitchywrote** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:44 pm

The last comment here is perhaps one of the more ignorant things I've read here, and I petition that this whole section be deleted. I don't recall this being a personalized rant-space for an embittered Slipknot fan (who also suck and are out for your money).

moooV · Post by **moooV** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:06 pm

The last comment here is perhaps one of the more ignorant things I've read here, and I petition that this whole section be deleted. I don't recall this being a personalized rant-space for an embittered Slipknot fan (who also suck and are out for your money).

You didn't understand. I't not about music. [and noone debates about taste in music - it's your individual opinion which is respected].
It's about SIMILARITY. I't about taking in a face value. It's about that Yulja Volkova isn't appropriate candidate for Alita. That's what I've meant in a post above.

But who knows, maybe I'm wrong.

Twitchywrote · Post by **Twitchywrote** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:09 pm

Int 29Ah wrote: You didn't understand. I't not about music. [and noone debates about taste in music - it's your individual opinion which is respected].
It's about SIMILARITY. I't about taking in a face value. It's about that Yulja Volkova isn't appropriate candidate for Alita.

But who knows, maybe I'm wrong.

IF this wasn't about music, why was the first paragraph about how much you hate POP music, that you HAVE to listen to to get that "trash" out of your mind, because it makes you mad?

Sounded like you were on something of a tear about how pop music is destroying our soul.

kylerainer3 · Post by **kylerainer3** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:46 pm

hey this is just mi opinion about someone who i think it look like alita and the comments about their music have no sense i personally dont like their music only i see she look like, moreover no one says that alita must look like someone in the world she´s a draw and for the same reason anyone could do the role, i know the haircut isn´t enough but i see other things like the body and the face too this is just a matter of opinion and i respect that

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O.P. · Post by **O.P.** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:06 pm

Meh. This has been discussed to death on IMDB.

What you need to consider is that Gally will be CGI. Anybody could play her. What's important is how she moves, therefore someone like Summer Glau, Zhang Ziyi or even Michelle Yeoh - women who can believably kick some butt - should be considered.

Sergio Nova · Post by **Sergio Nova** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:22 pm

Dream wrote:DO NOT WANT!

Sorry, but I just can't imagine Gally played by a caucasian person. Of course, her appeareance in the manga is closer to that than the japanese stereotype, but still.
An half asian actress would probably work the best, but I don't really know any that could fit the role.

Either you or me. One of us is completely mistaken.
As far as I have understood, Gally/Alita is Martian, that is, she has German provenance. Thus, YES, she IS caucasian. The fact that she's got a Japanese name (Yoko) DOES NOT make her a Japanese character. Names, on a planet like ours, migrate from place to place. That wouldn't change on Mars, guy.

Sergio Nova · Post by **Sergio Nova** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:34 pm

Int 29Ah wrote: Their music really sucked ass and they were just a band for little stupid school girls, who would scream any time they see them

I agree entirelly!!!

Sergio Nova · Post by **Sergio Nova** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:39 pm

kylerainer3 wrote:hey im thinking maybe Julia Volkova (tatu) could be the role for alita movie she looks like her what do you think

please dont hurt me

Just a question: were such photos taken in a scrapyard?

kylerainer3 · Post by **kylerainer3** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:42 am

yes in fact now you see the real alita

hepar · Post by **hepar** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:20 am

That's what I think.

PS: 2 Int 29Ah: Don't borther to explain how shitty they are — the don't worth it.

moooV · Post by **moooV** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:33 am

As far as I have understood, Gally/Alita is Martian, that is, she has German provenance. Thus, YES, she IS caucasian.

Do you think that Germany is at the Caucasis or near??? o_O
Study geography, or see google maps - Germany is FAR from Caucasis (about 1500km).

I tell you - Alita doesn't look like caucasian type. There are lots of people from Caucasis here (immigrants) - people completely different from her.

Hramm · Post by **Hramm** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:04 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasoid ...

Dream · Post by **Dream** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:35 am

Sergio wrote: Either you or me. One of us is completely mistaken.
As far as I have understood, Gally/Alita is Martian, that is, she has German provenance. Thus, YES, she IS caucasian. The fact that she's got a Japanese name (Yoko) DOES NOT make her a Japanese character. Names, on a planet like ours, migrate from place to place. That wouldn't change on Mars, guy.

The name, plus her body type (small, dark hair, small nose, small mouth, small breast and flat bottom) tends to give me the idea she's at least part asian.
She's martian, but we don't really have proof her family was "german" from the very beginning. Could have been some late war refugees for instance (even though we're clearly making things up until Kishiro makes a full Gally origin story.)

moooV · Post by **moooV** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:59 am

Bliat... Forget about storyline or origin in story... I'm talking about appearance...

Most of caucasian girls have: CONNECTED and very wide eyebrows and mostly ROUND face shape.

small, dark hair, small nose, small mouth, small breast and flat bottom

This description is applicable to ANY race or type. Not an argument. And in this description, you have drawn a monster. =///

She DEFINITELY IS NOT caucasian, judging from her face, hair, and body condtitution. This is unquestionable.

Dream · Post by **Dream** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:20 pm

Int 29Ah wrote:Most of caucasian girls have: CONNECTED and very wide eyebrows and mostly ROUND face shape.

I use "caucasian" as a politically corect term for "average white person", "average" by what I'm used to see everyday, in France. Sorry if I'm not very clear with that. (My poor english doesn't help, too. sorry)

small, dark hair, small nose, small mouth, small breast and flat bottom
This description is applicable to ANY race or type. Not an argument. And in this description, you have drawn a monster. =///

We are talking about stereotypes there. What I described is characteristic of the "average japanese girl". And I can assure you they are a lot of pretty girls that share that description.

She DEFINITELY IS NOT caucasian, judging from her face, hair, and body condtitution. This is unquestionable.

I'm OK with that.

Wether you take the word "caucasian" literally or not.

moooV · Post by **moooV** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:45 pm

Under term "caucasian" I mean nationalities and types, typical for a Caucasian area, which is geographically limited by:

Black sea and Turkey - from West
Caspian sea - from East
Southern part of Russia between the seas above - from North
Iran - from South

Region includes countries: Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and others... , and a little bit of Russia which is descibed above.

Region: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=ru&g ... 31&t=h&z=7

I use "caucasian" as a politically corect term for "average white person"

It is not correct. Caucasian - means "specimen of a caucasian region nation".
And if you mean "average white person" - the only correct description is "European type person", and not caucasian. Caucasis is more Asian type.

kylerainer3 · Post by **kylerainer3** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:10 pm

hey we need to remember that alita is a cyborg is entire body is artificial and even is face as pased for some changes only is brain are human so from that point of view is race could be from everywere, i have a friend that have the body like a japanese girls and is face with some similitudes not much but is latina from chile, so the race is not something like that

hepar · Post by **hepar** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:27 pm

Are yo trying to tell that her brain is Caucasian?

Hell, guys, we don't even know if it's her face, we don't even know if she had to born as a boy, but her pops decided to make a cybo-girl out of her, since she had her mental and physical gender mismatch.
Gally is Gally. She's not human and yet she is.

PS: I've just read the article and wiki. Funny thing happens when science uses different terms in a different languages. The guys that we call caucasians are indeed from Caucas, the others russian scientists just call europeans to not confuse race and sub-race.

2 Int29: В общем кавказская раса в англ. — это европейцы, т.к. было доказно, что они вышли из этого региона и расселились по европе обратно.

Cailon · Post by **Cailon** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:00 pm

See this picture? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LA2- ... 63Cauc.JPG

Its from 1932. I guess you all know what happened in 1933 in the same nation where this picture and lexicon came from. That happens, if you compare men and woman, old and young people, totally unscientifical shit. The most different attribute is the different clothing.
And look at the "Nordisch" guy (=nordic): he looks so defined, so decided, yet with a glimpse of amicability--- its the perfect aryan. And there you have it, the Ubermensch. Now you can start a war, because your race is destined to rule over the world. Researches about the shape of skulls and about races begun in the 19th century and led eventually to beliefs of the superiority of the aryan race and thus to WW2 with stupid Hitler.

I personally doubt, that there is something like the "caucasian race", its only the fantasy of some mad scientists, who wanted to show that their own being was superior to others.
Its the same as if you'd say, all jewish people have big noses, ridiculous.

Back to Alita: When Kishiro drew Alita for the first time, did he already had in mind, that the mars was colonized by the germans? I hardly doubt that. Even so, he would have drawn her to be a beauty, regardless her origins. And thats where we are, what we need: a beauty and someone who can move like a fighter. Since Alita will be CGI its up to the movements (like someone said before).
So we are back at the beginning and could please end this stupid discussion about races.

Kern · Post by **Kern** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:06 pm

Theory about slavs in practice.

Waffen-SS formations were formed from Bulgarians, Bosnians, Romanians, Ukrainians, Slovaks, Russians, Cossacks , Albanians, Croatians, Armenians, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyzs, Azeris, Dagestanis, Chechens, Ingushes, and Lezgins.

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