There's no use in keeping this debate. You believe in stereotypes.zhek wrote:So you can't make this connection because real-life rockstars don't act like comic book characters and go around kicking people in the face? Spergin'.
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I have no idea what point you're trying to make. I'd like to see what you're thinking, though. Maybe we misunderstand.
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as i said, Zekka couldn't have listened any other music but heavy rock
this is just like that, leather pants, jacket and vest, drinking booze all time long, beeing an anarchist (good old fashioned sex pistols punk, anyone ?), no really there is not any doubt, he is a "rock" person
this is just like that, leather pants, jacket and vest, drinking booze all time long, beeing an anarchist (good old fashioned sex pistols punk, anyone ?), no really there is not any doubt, he is a "rock" person

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Sergio...
You know how Johnny Depp based his performance of Jack Sparrow on Keith Richards, the legendary guitarist for the Rolling Stones?
Kishiro has based a lot of Zekka's character on the rockstar archetype as well.
As you may know, Kishiro is a music/metal fan. Putting Zekka on the cover in a rock band with the Karatekas is Kishiro's way of having some fun and "winking" at the reader.
And if you don't understand this, I'm sorry, but you're the one with the malfunctioning chip.
You know how Johnny Depp based his performance of Jack Sparrow on Keith Richards, the legendary guitarist for the Rolling Stones?
Kishiro has based a lot of Zekka's character on the rockstar archetype as well.
As you may know, Kishiro is a music/metal fan. Putting Zekka on the cover in a rock band with the Karatekas is Kishiro's way of having some fun and "winking" at the reader.
And if you don't understand this, I'm sorry, but you're the one with the malfunctioning chip.
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Is that really so difficult to understand?
I simply said that in NO moment Zekka was shown singing or as part of a rock band. I simply said that THIS part of his personality has NEVER been shown. I simply implied that a cover picturing him as a rock star was NOT correspondent to any page shown up to now. I daresay it is a sort of poetic license, to say the least.
I think I have not been speaking Greek, have I?
I simply said that in NO moment Zekka was shown singing or as part of a rock band. I simply said that THIS part of his personality has NEVER been shown. I simply implied that a cover picturing him as a rock star was NOT correspondent to any page shown up to now. I daresay it is a sort of poetic license, to say the least.
I think I have not been speaking Greek, have I?
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OK, I understand what you are saying now. You are correct that Zekka has not literally done any singing in a band so far in Gunnm, and you are also correct that this cover is different from all previous covers in that it portrays a character doing something that he has not done so far in the comic.
It's the first time Kishiro has taken "poetic license" in this way for a cover, as far as I know.
I was just saying that I understand why Kishiro chose this cover, as Zekka's personality is similar to the stereotypical rock star personality. Kishiro is just playing around, having some fun with his characters.
I hope this clears things up!
It's the first time Kishiro has taken "poetic license" in this way for a cover, as far as I know.
I was just saying that I understand why Kishiro chose this cover, as Zekka's personality is similar to the stereotypical rock star personality. Kishiro is just playing around, having some fun with his characters.
I hope this clears things up!
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Talk about tumbling of empty barrels.
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Lets say, some covers display the deepest feeling or function of a character in the manga or at the moment of the story. Like Sechs flying crazy through the arena (he had some rampage in that volume), Caerula in front of the rocket (a new world and she is part of it) or like Alita on the "Angel Lake" (or Cake) cover ("Water of Styx", Alita is sort of dead, she is struggling to be reborn).
Now we have the same thing with Zekka, although I admit its a bit over the top.
Also I'm a bit sad, that Olympe or Ygrek didn't make it on the cover, but Rakan did.
Now we have the same thing with Zekka, although I admit its a bit over the top.
Also I'm a bit sad, that Olympe or Ygrek didn't make it on the cover, but Rakan did.
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Good point. I'd love to see a colored group drawing of Ygrec, Pissarro and Olympe.
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Your interpretation is perfect, man!Cailon wrote:Lets say, some covers display the deepest feeling or function of a character in the manga or at the moment of the story. Like Sechs flying crazy through the arena (he had some rampage in that volume), Caerula in front of the rocket (a new world and she is part of it) or like Alita on the "Angel Lake" (or Cake) cover ("Water of Styx", Alita is sort of dead, she is struggling to be reborn).
Now we have the same thing with Zekka, although I admit its a bit over the top.
Also I'm a bit sad, that Olympe or Ygrek didn't make it on the cover, but Rakan did.

As to Olympe and Ygrek on the cover, I would love, certainly!

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EXCELLENT andlgx!!!
Please, if You could scanner the covers and extra pages for us [in High Quality if is possible] please for complete the edition!!
and, tell me please the phases of this vol. 076 to...
Will be very very grateful!!
Please, if You could scanner the covers and extra pages for us [in High Quality if is possible] please for complete the edition!!
and, tell me please the phases of this vol. 076 to...
Will be very very grateful!!
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ah yes i shall be ordering my book soon too.. come on pay day!!
very nice but yes scan it good!!

very nice but yes scan it good!!
its perfect so stark so merciless so plain in its beauty the absolute purity...of the true panzer kunst.
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phases75-81