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悔しくて眠れないので愚痴を書く。
2010年6月10日 5:33
少し前に「ブラよろ」の佐藤先生を批判するようなことを書いたけど、全面撤回する。
佐藤先生、あんたは正しい。大手出版社はクソだ。
同志と信じ切っている作家を後ろから殴り倒し、顔を土足で踏みにじるようなことを平気でやりやがった。
いつもなら反撃するが、今回は両手足を縛られたような状態で反撃する選択肢がなかった…。
なぜだ。こんな扱いを受けるいわれはないはずだ。
今年に入ってから好きなゲームも我慢して、毎月の連載の仕事を上げ新装版の表紙を上げ単行本の表紙と原稿を上げウルジャンの表紙を上げ、頼まれれば色紙も描き仕事場撮影も受け、すべての〆切を守った。
6月のGLO100回記念を目指して。
それで編集部からのプレゼントがこれか。
あんまりじゃないか。
理由は企業の「保身」か。
もしくは俺への悪意か。このタイミングの良さ(悪さ)には作為的なものを感じる。
GLO100
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GLO100
Yukito is talking about the GLO100 chapter as an anniversary or something and some problems with the editor. Would be interesting to have an idea of what's going on with a simple understanding by targayenX:
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I tried auto translation which resulted in total gibberish.
Things that are understandable:
This was written in frustration.
There is a conflict with the publisher ("Major publishing company is shit" was quite clear
)
Something about a deadline.
---------------- Japanese to English translation ----------------
Yuki Kimagure ・ new book and
I write to vent frustration sleep.
June 10, 2010 5:33
A while ago, "Yoro bra" that I wrote to criticize Mr. Sato, a full retraction.
Dr. Sato, you are correct. Major publishing company is shit.
殴Ri down from the back and cocksure fellow writer, did it without scruple to trample on shoes look like.
But you always fight back, we had no choice to fight back in such a situation ... both were shackled.
Why. Deserve this treatment should not.
To put up with their favorite games from this year,
on the cover of Urujan on the manuscript and
the cover of the book form on the cover of the new edition on the work of the series of monthly,
by filming studio drawing even colored paper if asked, All defended the deadline.
6 GLO100 aim month anniversary.
Editor's presents this or that.
What's not so much.
The reason is "corporate self-protection" or.
I'm evil or to do. This timing is good (bad) things to feel artificial.
Things that are understandable:
This was written in frustration.
There is a conflict with the publisher ("Major publishing company is shit" was quite clear
Something about a deadline.
---------------- Japanese to English translation ----------------
Yuki Kimagure ・ new book and
I write to vent frustration sleep.
June 10, 2010 5:33
A while ago, "Yoro bra" that I wrote to criticize Mr. Sato, a full retraction.
Dr. Sato, you are correct. Major publishing company is shit.
殴Ri down from the back and cocksure fellow writer, did it without scruple to trample on shoes look like.
But you always fight back, we had no choice to fight back in such a situation ... both were shackled.
Why. Deserve this treatment should not.
To put up with their favorite games from this year,
on the cover of Urujan on the manuscript and
the cover of the book form on the cover of the new edition on the work of the series of monthly,
by filming studio drawing even colored paper if asked, All defended the deadline.
6 GLO100 aim month anniversary.
Editor's presents this or that.
What's not so much.
The reason is "corporate self-protection" or.
I'm evil or to do. This timing is good (bad) things to feel artificial.
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Just checked the blog over. You kind of get the gist from the machine translation. He's no happy 
Here's my rough and ready translation.
New - Notes with whimsical Yuki
Writing my complaints, 'cause I'm pissed off and can't sleep
June 10th 2010 5:33
A while ago I criticised Sato Sensei from "BuraYoro" (Means Swingin" an' swayin'), but I take it all back.
Sato Sensei, You're right. Major publishing companies are shit.
They stab the artists who think they've finally found a kindred spirit in the back, and calmly grind their faces into the fucking pavement.
I always try to counterattack this, but this time they've tied my hands, and there's nothing i can do about it.
Why is that? 'Cause there is no reason why I should be getting treated the way I am.
Since the beginning of this year I've tolerated their games, handing the monthly serial in, revamping the old editions, finishing the covers and the manuscripts. If they could, they'd even have me signing autographs and taking pictures of my workspace. I'm making all my deadlines.
And been looking forward to the anniversary of the 100th edition in June.
And the present from the Editor is this...
It's nothing much?
Their reasoning is "protecting their business"?
Otherwise I'd have thought it was just spite. For this kind of great (terrible?) timing, it feels like it's fucking intentional.
Here's my rough and ready translation.
New - Notes with whimsical Yuki
Writing my complaints, 'cause I'm pissed off and can't sleep
June 10th 2010 5:33
A while ago I criticised Sato Sensei from "BuraYoro" (Means Swingin" an' swayin'), but I take it all back.
Sato Sensei, You're right. Major publishing companies are shit.
They stab the artists who think they've finally found a kindred spirit in the back, and calmly grind their faces into the fucking pavement.
I always try to counterattack this, but this time they've tied my hands, and there's nothing i can do about it.
Why is that? 'Cause there is no reason why I should be getting treated the way I am.
Since the beginning of this year I've tolerated their games, handing the monthly serial in, revamping the old editions, finishing the covers and the manuscripts. If they could, they'd even have me signing autographs and taking pictures of my workspace. I'm making all my deadlines.
And been looking forward to the anniversary of the 100th edition in June.
And the present from the Editor is this...
It's nothing much?
Their reasoning is "protecting their business"?
Otherwise I'd have thought it was just spite. For this kind of great (terrible?) timing, it feels like it's fucking intentional.
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I don't get it... What did the editor *do* to him ?mogg wrote:And the present from the Editor is this...
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Thanks Mogg.
Is he angry because all the work he has to do and get so little back from them?
Is he angry because all the work he has to do and get so little back from them?

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what the fuck did they do to him ??

they put him on hiatus ???
they put him on hiatus ???
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I checked the rest of the blog out ( http://yukitolog.blogspot.com/ ). Apart from being asked to start using mac again instead of PC, as it seems he's been prefers microsoft (He goes off about Steve Jobs coz macs are a nightmare to clear up-I can agree there, can be a nightmare to defrag and clean out), what it seems like is that he got an email from the editor asking what is going on with the story. why is Ping younger looking than Mibadi, whats with the lines on their faces, what the hell does the english mean in the series,..etc... Seems like he might have been asked to rewrite/ justify a load of stuff.
It's a bit long, but I can put it up the blog if anyone wants.
Gunnm isnt being cancelled or anything
It's a bit long, but I can put it up the blog if anyone wants.
Gunnm isnt being cancelled or anything
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Hallowed be Arthur
could you tell us if you find anything about "that" they did to him
?
if blog entries are easy japanese (as in non formal), should be quite easier to translate no ?
if we should translate anything, maybe we should keep that undercover, because if any editor comes here... we're done for. so, let's keep a low profile, and for now, just give us some of the sensei's thoughts
could you tell us if you find anything about "that" they did to him
if blog entries are easy japanese (as in non formal), should be quite easier to translate no ?
if we should translate anything, maybe we should keep that undercover, because if any editor comes here... we're done for. so, let's keep a low profile, and for now, just give us some of the sensei's thoughts
Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. (Oscar Wilde)
Corporations have no soul to save, and they have no body to incarcerate. (Baron Thurlow)
Corporations have no soul to save, and they have no body to incarcerate. (Baron Thurlow)
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Is there any idea about when raws will be available?
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No, the issue for the month is always published the 19th of the month before, so GLO100 will be out in 2 days (officially I meanSome reliable guy said there would be no GLO chapter this month. Wait and see.
edit: In fact, I'm not sure I understood correctly... Is it this month or next month, I dunno. *process process process* I think it's next month's issue, seeing this :
But now we know where the picture of little Yoko has been done for.
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Hey guys, Here's some info on the issue between Kishiro and Shueisha. It comes from manga-news.com and it's confirmed by Heiji-sama who is a really trustworthy guy, one of the guys who used to run Raw-paradise (R.I.P. Raw-paradise)
I merely translated it in english:
"Is Kishiro Yukito going to leave Shueisha? Indeed, last june 14th, the author posted a message on his blog, explaining that on the 7th of June, he received a phone call from his Tanto (editor) who was asking him to change 3 things in the new version of Gunm. Those three things are:
- change the word Hakkyô (発狂) in the first volume, because this word (which means madness) might refer to schizophrenia (According to shueisha, the ministry of justice would have agreed on this)
- change the word Hakkyô (発狂) in the 4th volume.
- Change the word psycho (in the sentence: Die, you fucking psycho) in the third volume).
The author disapproves of those changes. And he doesn't understand why this decision is taken now, whereas the series has been published for 10 years now. They kept discussing and had a meeting in Tokyo on the 16th. According to the author, this meeting ended up in a total "defeat". The three words are indeed going to be changed.
The author ends his message with this sentence: "Right now I don't know what I am going to do. Am I going to keep on working with Shueisha? Or am I going to find an other way? Right now I haven't decided yet." "
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BTW, no GLO next month.
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I merely translated it in english:
"Is Kishiro Yukito going to leave Shueisha? Indeed, last june 14th, the author posted a message on his blog, explaining that on the 7th of June, he received a phone call from his Tanto (editor) who was asking him to change 3 things in the new version of Gunm. Those three things are:
- change the word Hakkyô (発狂) in the first volume, because this word (which means madness) might refer to schizophrenia (According to shueisha, the ministry of justice would have agreed on this)
- change the word Hakkyô (発狂) in the 4th volume.
- Change the word psycho (in the sentence: Die, you fucking psycho) in the third volume).
The author disapproves of those changes. And he doesn't understand why this decision is taken now, whereas the series has been published for 10 years now. They kept discussing and had a meeting in Tokyo on the 16th. According to the author, this meeting ended up in a total "defeat". The three words are indeed going to be changed.
The author ends his message with this sentence: "Right now I don't know what I am going to do. Am I going to keep on working with Shueisha? Or am I going to find an other way? Right now I haven't decided yet." "
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BTW, no GLO next month.
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I feel my avatar adequately represents my current state of mind. Goddammit.
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So it's ok if ppl get slaughtered in the most bloodmessy way (i remember an early Alita who smilingly cut 2 ppl heads with a knife and collect them with a sack before they hit ground al happy to get the bounty) but it's a problem if there are references to mental diseases? I always thought that japaneses aren't that normal 
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it turns out to be like changing word "homo" to "gay"..
this sucks.. political corectness is evil design..
this sucks.. political corectness is evil design..
Art of making photos is mesured by spended time in photoshop. More means WORSE..
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deleted, trolling
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Oh boy! Reminds me of Sheila Broflovski's line from the South Park movie: "Horrific, Deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!" I think this is interesting to hear about because if you're judging by the way some people talk about the manga-industry you'd get the impression that Japan is an Utopia where conflicts like this never appear at all.
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I don't get the point. I don't read manga at all (gunnm is the only one I read) and I don't wath anime. Can you explain what you've meant by it?if you're judging by the way some people talk about the manga-industry you'd get the impression that Japan is an Utopia where conflicts like this never appear at all.
The only thing I can guess is that Japan is a pretty mono-national country with nearly no assimilations, and, maybe, is free from racial problems. However, that's just a guess.
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I beg your pardon?moooV wrote:I hate it too. Why can't I call a black guy a nigger and a homosexual the faggot?it turns out to be like changing word "homo" to "gay"..
this sucks.. political corectness is evil design..![]()
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Japan is a country where foreign ppl is mostly openly called "gaijin", that is a term not much different from "dirty nigger". Intresting thing is that, according to a nigerian friend of minie, white ppl in Nigeria are often called with a word that can be translated "dirty white man".The only thing I can guess is that Japan is a pretty mono-national country with nearly no assimilations, and, maybe, is free from racial problems. However, that's just a guess.
Seems like only western ppl care about politically correct.
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I was talking about the unrealistic impression of the manga-business some people have. I've been a manga fan for years and although I'm largely unfamiliar with how the business works I've heard several descriptions of it by others, many of which place the industry in a very positive light. Unfortunately some of them tend to do it in almost parodic terms. If you believe what certain people say the working situation for manga-ka's like Kishiro is absolutely perfect - supposedly there are no conflicts with editors whatsoever and they are allowed to do whatever they want all the time. Looking at Kishiro's current situation with Shueisha it should be clear that this overly idealistic view is not entirely true.moooV wrote:I don't get the point. I don't read manga at all (gunnm is the only one I read) and I don't wath anime. Can you explain what you've meant by it?if you're judging by the way some people talk about the manga-industry you'd get the impression that Japan is an Utopia where conflicts like this never appear at all.
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Now I get it, thank you.
However, I think, YK has referred to the same problem in the end of the GLOv4 in a small comic (where he talks to the editor about changing the plot and gets shocked by his suggestion). He has to at least take in account the editor's opinion according to the plot and layout - we don't really know how much he had to change or even omit following the recommendations.
I think, we are witnessing a conflict of their plans right now. Hope it works out well, because the only two outcomes I can think about are:
1) YK drops the entire manga and goes to the nervous breakdown like he has before (period between BAAv9 and GLOv1)
2) He drops Shueisha and releases the manga in a stand-alone typography on a volume basis
3) He releases it in the internet, but uses donations (I think, this isn't less profitable - the fans are fans, after all)
Hope I'm wrong.
However, I think, YK has referred to the same problem in the end of the GLOv4 in a small comic (where he talks to the editor about changing the plot and gets shocked by his suggestion). He has to at least take in account the editor's opinion according to the plot and layout - we don't really know how much he had to change or even omit following the recommendations.
I think, we are witnessing a conflict of their plans right now. Hope it works out well, because the only two outcomes I can think about are:
1) YK drops the entire manga and goes to the nervous breakdown like he has before (period between BAAv9 and GLOv1)
2) He drops Shueisha and releases the manga in a stand-alone typography on a volume basis
3) He releases it in the internet, but uses donations (I think, this isn't less profitable - the fans are fans, after all)
Hope I'm wrong.
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srsly, this world is going more batshit insane with every passing minute...
frak.
Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. (Oscar Wilde)
Corporations have no soul to save, and they have no body to incarcerate. (Baron Thurlow)
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That's actually not really true. "Gaijin" is closer to "Black dude" or "Mexican". It can be interpreted in a negative way, but it's simply a descriptor, not an inherently derogatory term. If anything, Japanese people view foreigners as better and "cooler" because they're different (except maybe some of the old ones that remember WWII). You're right to say that they aren't politically correct when it comes to racial issues, but I personally find it refreshingly honest. They definitely don't have racial conflict on anywhere near the same scale that we do in the US.MrFaber wrote:Japan is a country where foreign ppl is mostly openly called "gaijin", that is a term not much different from "dirty nigger". Intresting thing is that, according to a nigerian friend of minie, white ppl in Nigeria are often called with a word that can be translated "dirty white man".The only thing I can guess is that Japan is a pretty mono-national country with nearly no assimilations, and, maybe, is free from racial problems. However, that's just a guess.
Seems like only western ppl care about politically correct.